And talk with the commission hopefully the board and everyone and flush out those options. Sorry we were distrusting the first meeting in september after the august break. This is exceptional for me as long as question have solutions. As the chair the committee im also very open to schedule this hearing whenever the appropriate time is my district is pressed with cayuga and the most impacted areas i have a ton of interest topic mike maybe national set a particular date if we can do that earlier id like to do that earlier than later have a motion to continue to the call of the chair and work with the colleagues and puc to schedule this as soon as the information is available and well collectively put pressure on the puc to make sure that is done as quickly as possible perhaps the motion should be there should be a hearing or continue the hearing no matter september. Yeah. Unfortunately supervisor yee the dates hesitate to be continued to a date certain. Colleagues, we all have so many interest and not let up so we all workout and saying on the record i will put that as a priority hearing on the agenda as quickly as possible if i can have a motion to continue this to the call of the chair. So moved. Without objection passes. Mr. Clerk, is there any additional business to come before this body . Theres no further business. Thank you with that, the committee has come to a close. My name is ace and im on the case. Reflect ill start off with an introduction im here specifically to talk on issues about part about the honorable cop the double dipping in the city here but my name is ace and im on the case. Some of those people out there they want to be all mass but no mystery just check the black history i been working on case and ball with a lot of conspires and some people dont like me cop im here for my 3 kids and Community Ladies and gentlemen, im for out migration at least believe me that was passed through our Lieutenant Governor newsom the next governor anonymously and made it institutionalized about the black population going on down hes saying would what is going down in this town the black population going down and when the benefits come we might not be no where around you know what 50 percent hiring is a bunch of stuff we cant afford to pay that high dog on rent in city hall it gets silly what you see in city hall is r it gets so silly you all call it city hall i call it silly hall. Once im going to tell you cop ill be here at city hall dont you want to know what goes on down here in city hall dont you want to know anyway, im here today basically to make statements and this is my first time here i thought ill come down accuse my appearance im here to express but the city of San Francisco i city and county we as africanamerican negroes are are in a state you find answering despite the city by the bay newsom put a mechanism together to out migration im here to talk about that my name is ace and im on the case. Thank you hello, im larry bush for friends of the library i have two issues not on the agenda one is the issue of whistle blowers between city agencies and not had a return to the Ethics Commission id like to hand you from the expect essay in the west side observer highlighted what it changed from the past to where that is now were urging that you all have another hearing to look at the changes the changes are significant we have a damp eagle effect different from the Commission Approved a year ago but needs to be revetted and go to an interested persons meeting the other issue i think we want to bring up the question of the Planning Commissioner accepted a Fulltime Position at spur as an advocate a position on a matter that is coming up this thursday on inclusionary housing she has taken the view not consistent on this issue theyve not directly lobbied the Planning Commission that is a crappy conflict of interest and disappointed to see in the corresponds with the meyers that was advise that came from an attorney who is also an attorney here and Ethics Commission and heres a copy of correspondence back and forth from the Mayors Office theyre interested in seeing that she doesnt have to recuse herself on issues important to the administration that would be this coming thursday meeting the fact shes now the advocate on spur on behalf of San Francisco policy and they building that she should resign from the commission we think that the commission should send a notice to all commissioners about what constitutes the appearance of a cultivating in discussions at a meeting she said that shes not paid by spur but a foundation but when be couldnt remember the pay at this time she couldnt resigns until the mayor allowed her to resign thats not the basis how people serve so were going to bring this to the attention of the commission to whoever is watching. Chairman i will wait until Public Comment has ended but want to make a motion on that subject. Very well. Commissioners thank you for having us. Green house us this time and thank you, larry bush on everything he said a do the best we can conflict of interest on that commission but im interfering a district 11 resident im the treasury for the bureaucrats and a volunteer field organizer for the Money Campaign going on 5 years weve working closely with organizations that often o move on and many outvoted in and the Campaign Finance reform oblique last years prop c x one and the state initiate to overturn Citizens United im here to support the commissioner keane ethic you can see proposal this corruption is at a heart of politics in the america and whatever the interpretation citizens u 234i9d allows the groups to used money to influence candidates in policy decision cool and in particular San Francisco is a leader in Campaign Finance reform thank you for that a concurrent influence of money in politics is equivalent we live in the richest and yet have the inequality gap in america were in a fullblown housing crisis and can guarantee you some of the policy decisions and contracts weve grand that led to the crisis were by Campaign Contributions and promises in mind rather than the merit and what is most beneficial to the people in public common good so im here to urge you to pass commissioner keanes proposal in its entirety thank you. Thank you good evening, commissioners mark solomon i wanted to go ahead and comment on larry bushes comments we have a major policy decision that will affect the east side for decades to come in our form of government a place for san franciscans are basically completely excluded a commission from the government nicole the developer form of government were looking a major decision where san franciscans are not at the table with the Affordable Housing people that are dumping this question into the Planning Commission not thought about it cutting us up for a shift from Affordable Housing they cant execute a Charlie Brown but to make sure that san franciscans r front and center in the commission 0 progress and spur that as basically been knocked it out of the park for policy and work within the membership to get Campaign Contributions for officials the work im going on the prop j not the developers the main go contributors but their consultants their architects, theyre associated people that sit around from projecting that is what spur is it is associated sector of the economy that makes their money off the project that on the Planning Commission is where the agency that will be regulated by the Planning Commission has been captured and no negligental independence not serving one master ms. Johnson is serving spur and the architect and supposed to be serving as a representative we cant have that for the Commission Council to recommend to that thats okay means is Ethics Commission didnt have independent counsel if in their council serves the City Attorney that serves the mayor and the Planning Commission for independent council for the Ethics Commission so not only does our counsel serve one master but independent advise so the commissioners can serve one master that is theyd the move the needle of its been with the pay to play cultivate we need you to step up and this will change the accountable policy moving forward so neighborhoods in the mission will see a change in the neighborhoods worse than in the past attempts to mitigate theyre not mitigating the problem it a complete mess thank you. clapping. thank you any Public Comment on matters not appearing on the agenda if not commissioner kopp. Mr. Chair fellow commissioners, i agree with many bushs comments and the supporting comments of other members of the public who taken the time to give us the benefit of their effort and attention. And it is bother some with with respect to the issue not the procedural issue respecting commissioner johnson of the Planning Commission but the substantive issue about which i made no statement whatsoever and would be in appropriate for this commission to make that statement but i note the record shows that commissioner johnson was announced last month as the executive director of spur San Francisco chapter and the public records demonstrates some of the donations matters of which resulted in positions of opposition or support the various ballot measures in 2016 and probably before that i strongly believe commissioner johnson should recuse herself from the item which is on the Planning Commissions agenda for thursday which is april 27, 2017, and therefore i will make a motion that the Ethics Commission transmit a letter to combhoks requesting she recuse herself if any item dealing with the subject matter which i will characterize as low Income Housing and other sponsors can probably refine it in a technically appropriate way. Is there a second to the motion. Second. All right. If i can interject not a matter it is agendize for tonight meeting beyond the scope the brown act i want to not that for procedural but nothing about the brown act for the individual commissioners like commissioner kopp and yourselves may want to separately send a letter to commissioner johnson. Noted for the record in regards to the substance of what youre raising mr. Chin that is educated this is a matter coming for vote rather soon and it is something that is clearly within the purview of the Ethics Commission something that the Ethics Commission shouldnt speak to because of the importance of the ethical issue involved so i think that im going to rule that common places motion it in order and that we should go forward with the discussion and debate on it. We have a motion and second any further discussion by the members of the commission . Ill just want to associate mitchel with commissioner kopps remarks and motion and also ill associate mitchel is it so germane to say things that were raised by the members of the public it seems no further comments in the commission well take Public Comment good evening david pilpal a couple of thoughts while i certainly agree with commissioner kopps underlying concerns i do give worth to the City Attorneys caution this is not prove or disprove on the agenda and think nairns the timeline perhaps a way to graft the findings that you this came to the commission attention subsequent to the posting and defer this matter to the following meeting will whatever the appropriate brown act and sunshine findings youre in a good place to take this action absent that a problem setting this conversation from the full commission could do this is as individuals and the other caution ill suggest there could be a complaint or investigation if commissioner johnson does recuse herself im not sure the commission is in a good place to send this advance warning even if it is coming from a good place inasmuch as you have to do not future to consider the merits of an investigation enforcement action should that come out those are many real concerns you may want to been in the next couple of minutes who to proceed im currently with the underlying concern it is well founded tough place. Any future Public Comment. Yes. Ace on the case im supportive of commissioner kopps investigation double dipping is gingko in the city after you finish them go to ocii look at their executive director executive director of what is it public finances and go to the Housing Authority over and over the president the commission the depend upon of oewd that tells me mayor ed lee didnt have enough qualified people im speaking specifically dealing with the Africanamerican Community in a state of emergency and the mayor has people double dipping and in the fillmore particularly i got to mention it read the papers im looking other people ive known for 15 years and fbi with the mayor ed lee knows me knows me now the mayor thank god he didnt want to see me once the paper said over 5 hundred agents investigation from 2011 to what is going on now all that money spent when we finish this we need to go down the list ill be coming here and telling you what i see at city hall and trying to tell you that is against the law what i horde is so absurd in the history in front of me ive been here for 25 years yeah 24 years and through the administrations i worked on the Frank Jordans with the first black marijuana ace in our face and evolved to what i am 63 years old and done died of surgery for 24 years and now double dipping and double dual you need to context that my name is ace and im on the case. And here to evaluate ill bring you a list ed lee shame on you man ive not be able to see him skews the way im looking not dressed to impress but here to have clarity in the way they do government im 63 years old and been around when commissioner kopp was on the board of supervisors and doing what people are doing now checking government i was a young pickup and now 63 ive done you know my friends leave that alone im here on the act of god move on with a new era i dont have time for new eras speaking on behalf of friends of ethics we support this to commissioner johnson i think david pilpal suggestion of preamble this was an issue that arose since the last Ethics Commission and the fact that the vote is coming up on theirs was only noticed i think over the weekend but it is shouldnt be a prisoner of the calendar should be speaking out on behalf of the citys interest and would be an opportunity down the road when you take a review of conflict of interest policy in the city to deal more fully on the appearance of a conflict because if you go to the City Attorneys gallows government guide about a financial conflict with money coming into to you this is a indirect payment according to commissioner johnson is problematic to make that claim off the top no problem with saying a conflict of interest pretend to be an advocate and no conflict as long as no lobbying the fact theyve gone on that pubically and made a recommendation and the Mayors Office is saying they want her to boost because it is impactful to the administration because there is a swing vote on this that the outcome has been baked into the process outside of public view what youre doing bringing this to Greater Public view thank you. Yes. Commissioners mark the worse that can happen with a resolution irregularly mr. Johnson someone can go do court and make and sting and get not corruption i doubt that will happen youll have to come out and take the risks and stand for the right thing. Thank you chair. Id like to make a suggestion i do believe the commission needs to be able to express its and encourage the commission encouraged about taking formal action if not agendize and not an open mall one and alternative approach with the Commission Opinions expressed with samaritan to communicate whatever you wanted the commission implicit comments and have a letter sent to the commissioner to raise whatever question or points busy think that is one way to achieve without compromising this to the open government when we do that are important to the court so offer that as an alternative approach to achieving the plan. Mr. Chair. Let me reiterate make that clear my motion to transmit a letter signed by the chairman of the commission and i have no view as to who should participate in the letter but i would over my time and attention to the wording of letter it is not the motion for a resolution it is a simple letter. And then ill have a couple of other points to make maybe ill make it now since it will safe some time im not sure clear from the reports as to whether the City Attorneys opinion was written do you know if it was written. So i think im not in a position at this meeting to discuss the advice i may or may not given to another commission. Why is that. Itself respect the Attorney Client privilege and the confidentiality ill do for any of you. I watch those remarks in shine in some plays tonight ill be making a motion i would also like after that is disposed of a letter sent from the commission to the