Transcripts For SFGTV LIVE Police Commission 20160512 : vima

Sfgtv meeting of the Police Commission occurring wednesday, may 11, 2016 will begin shortly. [gavel] president loftus please stand for the pledge of allegiance. [pleage of allegiance] president loftus i like to go home [call of the roll] loftus, here. Turman, here. Jan marshall, present. 10 judge uses his excuse jttf is en route melara, here. A quorum is present. Also with us is chief of police gregory transfer and president loftus good evening everyone and welcome to be made 11 Police Commission meeting. We are going to start this meeting by this body is governed by rules of order. The San Francisco Police Commissioner rules of order so Everybody Knows exactly what they are im going to read them. Im going to read the part around rules of conduct based on some of the stuff that happened last week. I want to make sure everyone understands what the wolves are so that if somebody does disrupt the meeting we will act on them. So everybody is on the same page. Im going to read these. Public comment, members of the public are entitled to comment on any matter on the calendar. Prior to action being taken by the commission on that item. In addition to the agenda shall provide an opportunity for numbers of the public to address the commission on items of interest to the public which are under the jurisdiction of the commission and adopting the subject to Public Comment on other items on the agenda. The president may set a reasonable time limit for each speaker depending on the complexity of the item. The length of the agenda, and the number of persons present to speak on the item. At this time, i will allow Public Comment to be 3 min. Per person. Will be going to go by justin the commission. Speakers must speak from the podium when addressing the commission and shall speak clearly into the microphone. Speakers are to her fame from using profanity and or yelling or screaming. Commissioners find it difficult to give serious consideration to any comments addressed in such a fashion. Members of the public should address the questions and remarks to the commission of another Police Personnel was easy personnel were commissioners are required to spot two questions, except when the request is to do so by the president. Individual commissioners and Police Personnel should refrain from entering into debate or discussion with speakers during Public Comment. Will quickly prepared audience conduct. Persons in the audience cannot express vocal support or opposition statement made by members of the public Lease Department or occ staff addressing the commission. A positive applause is printed members of the public may not display signs that impede the ability or commission to see or participate in the meeting were in danger any meeting participants. Cameras and tape recording devices may be brought into the Commission Hearing room. However, persons are prevented from using flash demo lights or other devices that may disrupt the meeting. Will 3. 4. Permission to remove disruptive persons and the President Shall possess the power and duty to order or removed from the meeting room and personal permits the following acts after being warned that such conduct could lead to the removal so this is what were trying to avoid so that we can all be here and we can hear from everyone. Disorderly conduct that this disrupts the order. A breach of the peace oysters conduct or violent disturbance planning to interrupt the course of the meeting. Disobedience of any lawful order of the Commission President which ill include in order to be seated. Any other unlawful interference with the do an orderly course of this meeting. In addition to affecting the removal of any person or persons for the meeting, who in the beginning of the president has violated the order and the Core Committee meeting resume request lease personnel to place such person under arrest for violation of section 403 of the california penal code or any other applicable law and make us such person or persons to be prosecuted. Therefore the complainant to be signed by the president or the omission second again im reading these will these rules that govern the Police Commission since 2005. Just so were all clear that members of the commission wanted a chance to hear from everyone. These are the rules that govern anybody does disrupt that im going to ask you to stop so we can continue with the peoples business and if someone doesnt we will go into recess and then try again. Opening seven conduct. So, with that, sgt. Please call the first line of clerk writer that commissioner loftus du jour make a note of light 3832 president loftus yes. There is one change to the agenda based on the request of Community Partners and that apartment the annual report update during the joint Terrorism Task force by joint request, that is been taken off the agenda and to be put on parties need some extra time before that matter comes before the commission is my understanding so that we move to a future meeting. Clerk item 1, consent calendar. Receipt and file action requested chief of police to accept donation of a key temperature system from ms. Louise be totally, president of the police and working canine foundation to be installed in eight 2016 Ford Explorer assigned to a canine unit supervisors vehicle. Bible of the clothing and installation estimated at 3530. President loftus so this item is in the consent come. Any questions from the chief on this matter . Do i have a motion . Any Public Comment on the consent calendar . Hearing none, Public Comment is closed. Can have a motion . Moved and seconded. All those in favor say, aye. The motion passes. Please call the next line of clerk item to Public Comment. The public is now welcome to address the Commission Regarding items that do not appear on tonights agenda but that within subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. Speakers shall just the remarks of the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or occ personnel. On the Police Commissioner rules of order, during Public Comment from either police or occ personnel were commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. Individual commissioners and police and occ personnel should reclaim our from entering into any debate or discussion with speakers during Public Comment. Please limit your comments to 3 min. President loftus thank you. General Public Comment. Good evening. Testifier good evening. One quick point. The general meltdown increased summons, San Francisco, new york, massive corruption. Charles and succulent. Shes a unarmed youth in the back. Florida, police corruption. What is going on . Someone is wearing a body coming. But we need those fast. But hayes appeared on it one more time at this. I would like this gentleman like set of you we subject every department in the country every major moment in this country has them except you. One is San Francisco. One is San Francisco. Theyre all around us. Oakland, san mateo, when is the last time you heard of someone being killed by a teaser . No, recently. Speed president loftus we all have to follow the rules of order. Clyde you have your 3 min. Testifier theres not been a man killed by a teaser. We are talking about the bay area. We are talking up the bay area. Yes, this can be sporadic cases like that but as i said before, teaser me before you should that boy. Yes, africanamericans will get teased more than white people. But a brother can take a shock if he can take a bullet. Have a good evening. President loftus thank you. Next speaker, please. Testifier good evening. Im clyde mentioned the best cameras. I know couple weeks ago when i was here it was going to be a close session annually were going to get an update on how the socialization of the new policy with the labor or negotiation of the new policy. I dont know all the details, but can we get an update as to how that went . Vocal, i think, was to get the gentleman was in charge of that project moving quickly, please. The sooner the better. Its already been over three years since the idea of the batch cameras came to this commission to three years is a long time even in the government. Thats number one. Number two, i know you probably have heard because [inaudible] about the Commission Finding that hasnt been fully released but the Summary Findings were released saying that theres no accountability in the San Francisco Police Department. Now, we know theres been a lack of transparency because of the lack of the badger cameras and other problems, the accountability issue really is going to be held much five by the cat scan batch cameras if you dont do your job, which is when people do wrong, they are punished. Not rewarded. Its not swept under the carpet it when people do wrong, even if near the chiefs, no matter who they are, they need to be punished by you and they need not to get away with it. The Police Officers association is at the root of the problem as we all know. We know chuck lambert, former top former lieut. From the motor to lieut. A few years ago, chuck lambert, he was one of the officers in the association that before he met up with me. He was a treasure and of course was forced out of the Police Department under cloud of scandal. Now, getting to the text, you would be such a problem if the text was the only person involved each time we find them or if all they were doing was texting. But every time we have a texting scandal, is usually about 1520 other people in the department that are caught up in it as well. There is usually other crimes that led to the texting scandal being exposed by these officers that were involved. That is what is so troubling to the public. If we have a bad apple where they are its not big of a deal. When evil branches of the tree that are rotten to the court, that is what is troubling to the public. Finally, i note that chief suhr has the support of people ranging from david campos to the major if you can get up that wide of support in body politics in San Francisco that says you have a lot of support within the body politic. But, in contrast, is a board in the public is not nearly as high. That is a sign of rocks within the body politic thats a sign of corruption. Thank you. Have a good evening president loftus next speaker. Testifier good evening commission, and i like to begin my comments tonight by applauding supervisor jane kim for taking a stand on with it. Supervisors have endorsed the call to look for a new chief of police. That is merely echoing with the people have been demanding for months and deserve. Tonight, i want to focus my attention slightly always from that issue though because of the urgent nature of the use of force deliberate policy deliberations. Theyre going on and specifically, referencing the department of justice recommendations that were just released. I want to say that we are grateful that rationally, the department of justice has rejected suggestions by the poa to soften the language and has requested the use of shall, as opposed to should. Theres no accountability in a policy that just suggests things that perforce shows absolutely no history of a hearing to. However, i want to take particular exception with the department of justices position that they have taken the draft policy concerning conducted Energy Devices, a. K. A. Tasters. The exception i was to take with it is twofold. First off, despite the fact that the apartment of justice is not explicitly called for the use of tasters to be included in a policy, we take their suggestion that the policy be combined as one policy, is not just something that would be rationally sound for the department, but as a passive endorsement of the inclusion of tasters in the policy and reject that completely. Secondly, i like to point out that in their commentary on section where i go, special considerations, specifically comment number 21, they say what if any evidence supports the notion Homeless Individuals may be more susceptible to adverse reaction if you sounded however, the word homeless does not appear anywhere in the draft policy which is evidence of the department of justices implicit assertion that they believe its okay to use lasers on homeless people, which is an assertion we the people reject innocent entirety this is exactly the kind of bigotry, exactly the kind of derivative need your residence by the scandal by sgt. Earlier in the week that we are opposed to and exactly why teasers present such a dangerous option for the San Francisco Police Department with its current culture and its imperative that two disc loot conducted Energy Devices from these use of force to liberations. President loftus on the briefly respond. Just because i want to clarify two things. One is the Us Department of justice was unequivocal that they are not recommending that San Francisco adoptees is. They are not recommending it nor are they not recommended that the local decision. I want to clarify that. The second thing is, there was a stakeholder comment by the coalition on homelessness that we as a commission might want to consider adding Homeless Population as a group that might be more vulnerable good so, they were spawning to that comments. I know its been somewhat tricky to see the comments back and forth because weve got some feedback but i didnt want you to be left with the take away with that doj came up with that. Its a local suggestion and they were posing a question. So the other thing i want to say is that we will be having this is an item on the agenda went on down the road and the opportunity for Public Comment. This is general Public Comment on anything not on the agenda. So thats it. Thank you very much. Testifier good evening, commissioners. [inaudible] im also a resident and work in the bayview. I want to express some of the bayview concerns. There are grave concerns whats been happening with the last Text Messages where again, is expressing that he joined the department to killi cant say the word. People in my building, are expressing fear. The last bunch who are very active in the community explains expressed terror. This is not the first time some of you will remember, commissioner hwang they bayview least [inaudible] being [inaudible]. And now we have sgt. Sawyer who is one of the killers of alex. And this individual works in the bayview. This is terrifying. We do not feel safe. Something has to be done. Come back, you know. As a group, as a Police Commission, come back to it has to stop. Please do not send hired killers to bayview. It has to stop. Thank you. President loftus thank you. Next speaker. Testifier good evening. Hello. My name is ivan gomez, San Francisco native. I grew up in the Bernal Heights neighborhood as well as the fillmore. Im here to plead that you restore justice to San Francisco. I want to applaud jane kim for speaking out on behalf of requesting hiking and demand and, really saying that in this state of the perfect storm, i would say, we are at a place where, yes, this city needs police reform. It also needs a Good Foundation for that reform to happen. With chief dancer having a number of emotions that he had, it is surprising to me that he has somehow made it to chief. It is appalling to me that with the amount of information that we have now heard over the last couple of weeks, including this Blue Ribbon Panel, these findings around bias amongst the Police Department that we still are at a place where we are not sure whether keith suhr will be fired. I say that whether you are speaking in the best interest of the people of San Francisco, or youre speaking in the best interest of the Police Commission and your reputation, we know have a huge distraction and an elephant in the room we refuse to address. That is that we have someone who we do not trust, whether it is now or ever to implement these reforms that and we is promising with this new budget, this 17. 5 million that he is seeking to bring into the city. Over the next two years. We do not believe that this is the right direction you need to go in to implement those reforms and i really really hope that you guys consider your power and position as the Police Commission to move forward on the request of the people as well as supervisor kim and supervisor campos. Thank you. President loftus thank you. Next he could. Testifier alan schlosser, counsel with the aclu of Northern California. I want to speak to you for a few minutes about an important piece of legislation that mark leno introduced,