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SFGTV Planning July 3, 2024

Commission. President diamond here. Commission Vice President moore here. Commissioner braun here. Commissioner imperiale here. Commissioner koppell here. And commissioner williams here. Commissioners, first on your agenda is consideration of items proposed for continuance. Items one, a and b for case numbers 2022. Hyphen 00979 for drp and var for the property at 1153 guerrero street. Discretionary review and variance are proposed for continuance to may 2nd, 2024. Item two, case number 2023 hyphen 007496 drp at 638 rhode island street. A discretionary review is proposed for continuance to may 9th, 2024, and item three, case number 2022. Hyphen 006831dm at 619 marina boulevard, a staff initiated discretionary review has been withdrawn. I have no other items proposed to be continued, so we should take Public Comment only on the matter of continuance, members of the public, this is your opportunity to, speak to any of these continuances. Please come forward. Seeing no request to speak Public Comment is closed and your continuance calendar is now before you. Commissioners commissioner. Imperial move to continue. All items as proposed. Second, thank you, commissioners, on that motion to continue items as proposed. Commissioner williams i commissioner braun i. Commissioner imperial i. Commissioner koppell i. Commissioner moore i and Commission President diamond i so move commissioners that motion passes unanimously 6 to 0 placing us on your consent calendar. All matters listed will need to need to also tag the variance along. Sorry. Item one b the variance will continue. That also to may 2nd. Thank you. Thank you mr. Zoning administrator, now we are on your consent calendar. Commissioners. All matters listed here under constitute a consent calendar are considered to be routine by the Planning Commission and may be acted upon by a single roll call vote. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public or staff, so requests in which event the matter shall be removed from the consent calendar and considered as a separate item at this or a future hearing item for case number 2023. Hyphen 001109c82 54 jules avenue a conditional use authorization item five, case number 2023 hyphen 011365ca at 680 folsom street. Conditional use authorization and item six, case number 2022 hyphen 008992 coa at 410 jessie street. Unit number 402, a conditional use authorization. Members of the public. This is your opportunity to request that any of these consent calendar items be removed and heard today. You need to come forward seeing none. Public comment is closed and your consent calendar is now before you. Commissioners commissioner imperial move. Move to approve all items. Second. Thank you, commissioners, on that motion to approve items on consent. Commissioner williams i. Commissioner braun i commissioner imperial i. Commissioner coppell i commissioner moore i and Commission President diamond i so move commissioners that motion passes unanimously 6 to 0 placing us under commission matters for item seven. The land acknowledgment. Commissioner williams will be reading the land acknowledgment today. The roman colony acknowledgment. The commission acknowledges that we are on unseen and ancestral homeland of the ramaytush colony. Who are the original inhabitants of the San Francisco peninsula. As the indigenous stewards of this land and in accordance with their traditions, the ramaytush colony have never ceded loss nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional traditional territory. As guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their Traditional Land homeland, and we wish to pay our respects and acknowledging the ancestors, elders and relatives of the Ramaytush Ohlone community, and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. Thank you. Item eight consideration of adoption. Draft minutes for march 21st, 2020 for members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission on their minutes. Again you need to come forward. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed and your minutes are now before you commissioners. Commissioner braun moved to approve the minutes. Second. Thank you. Commissioners, on that motion to adopt your minutes, commissioner williams, i commissioner braun, i commissioner imperial i commissioner koppell i commissioner moore i and commissioner president diamond i so moved commissioners that motion passes unanimously 6 to 0. Item nine commission comments and questions. So id like to start out by directing a question to director hylis. As we all know, we all received a letter from the mayor yesterday relating to the rezoning. And i would like to understand further how the Planning Department, reacts to the letter and sort of the pathway, as you see it Going Forward. I know we all just received a memo from you on this, but i havent had a chance to read it because it just came. So maybe you could talk us through the memo. Sure. So yeah, you should have in your email from lisa chen, a memo from us, basically trying to outline the steps of how we get from where we are today to a revised recommendation to you all on the on the rezoning. And as you know, were under a timeline by hcd to get there by the end of next year. So we have time. But we dont have a lot of time given the legislative process and, you know, the amount of area were looking at and the complications with it. So that memo kind of lays out some of the topics and steps. And first i just wanted to appreciate our team, lisa chen whos been leading this Rachel Tanner who was on the commission, josh sawicki. And there are others for their professionalism and thoughtfulness throughout this, this whole process. Because, as you know, its not an easy task. And the mayor laid that out. You know, shes heard you. Youve heard from folks who both say, this is going too far or this isnt going far enough, but you should know, we will continue to kind of put forward recommendations that we think are good planning policy, good public policy, and really use data and analysis to get there. So i think the mayors letter reinforced that she gets fairly specific on some of her recommendation, but not into the to the level of detail. We can just change the map from looking at underutilized sites. And some of those have come up in our, in our discussions with Community Lake laguna honda, add additional opportunities for six and eight story buildings in the city and also consider removing density limits. But keeping our controls like height and rear yard in places to allow for more units in a in a kind of an allowable box. And even prior to the mayors memo, we were working on a revision to our proposal based on comments we received from you and from others. Throughout this process, were not going to have this map tomorrow. You know, this this its fairly complicated. And there are complicated topics that you have brought up and others have brought up, and were included in the mayors letter. Some of those state density bonus and how our local Program Works with state density bonus, the feasibility analysis. And the mayor talked on this like, whats feasible, where are we going to get housing and what type of project is actually feasible. Our modeling, how we get to the numbers that were required to get through under rina. There was an article in the paper today about kind of our modeling. Well show you our modeling and be transparent about it. Affordable housing sites and strategies, objective Design Standards which you have all pushed us on density decontrol how that would work as a tool. Historic preservation, protecting Small Businesses. And just do we have the level of infrastructure and transit or how do we get there to accommodate that housing . So we want to be thoughtful and deliberate on this. We want to bring you those topics. They may be bunched together in a couple hearings or some of them that are more complicated may stand alone as their own hearing, because those are kind of the ingredients that will go into ultimately providing a revised map and rezoning to you all. So thats our plan. Were happy to get your input on that approach. Topics you want to add or subtract from that list. As i said, we dont have a ton of time, but we do have time to be thoughtful and deliberate on this, and we will be. So thank you, commissioner moore, thank you. Director hills, for giving us a quick response. This is coming very unexpected. I do want to commend the mayor to leading the charge to wanting to take a step back and really saying, lets do it. Correct. That is, i think the issue i do hear a strong resonance with, topics being brought up by other commissions, the board of supervisors regarding more neighborhood focused planning. Thats still leaves the objectives of priority neighborhoods, etc. All, on the table. However, doing it with more neighborhood focused input. I think, is where the success of San Francisco planning has been and where i think we continue to need to have it be focused. The one thing i would like to say, and i am not looking at anybody in this room, what i do strongly object to is that this morning the paper was full of very incendiary comments. Basically throwing the Planning Department under the bus and that is where my patience stops. Were sitting here as volunteers. Theres nothing in this position by which we have a horse in the race. Were doing as best as we can as professionals with different backgrounds to help keep the voice open of where the community is telling us stop, listen to us, etc. However, to politicize this to the extent that the Planning Department is being thrown under the bus, that is where the buck stops. For me. Im a professional planner, i am an architect, and i am a professional urban designer. And i do believe that the Planning Department is doing everything possible, humanly possible to rise to the incredible challenges that are coming out of sacramento. Theyre almost impossible to tackle by anybody on its own, because our professional education has not prepared us for that type of i want to be diplomatic here. Challenge to what . Be professionally do. However, for some other voices in the community to tell me that the Planning Department has known all along what they are doing that is, i think, unacceptable. So i want to leave it with that. And i would caution that you please help the department, that you help us to do it correctly this time around, rather than all of a sudden coming out of the woodwork and taking credit for many of the people who are writing, we dont have any idea or any background to participate or have a voice. Thank you. Just on the memo we sent to has a list of kind of the Community Meetings weve held, and most of those are in neighborhoods with, with, groups that represent, you know, residents in that neighborhood will continue to do that through this process. Weve done that. Weve reached out not just to residents, but beyond, you know, because there are more than just the residents that have an interest in where were where were going on this. So we will continue to do that. But i appreciate those comments. I will add to commissioner moores comments that i believe that we have engaged in an incredibly thoughtful process so far. This is very challenging topic to figure out how to add 82,000 units within a short period of time that actually have a strong likelihood of being built, so that its not a paper exercise. And i have been impressed by the work of the Planning Department and the thoughtfulness in its approach, and by the Community Input that we have received, because were all trying to do whats in the best interests of the city. There are different visions for how we get there, although at the end of the day, you know, we are all trying to accomplish the goal that was set by sacramento in a way that we feel preserves us, what we all value most and love about our city. But still makes room for our children, our teachers, our firefighters, you know, people of all income levels to be able to live here, stay here, and enjoy everything that our incredible city offers to us. So, i thought and continue to think that the work of the department to date has been fantastic, i support the notion of having these additional hearings on these, you know, subject matter, the, the list of subject matters that you raised because i think we all need more understanding, as to how those specific subjects, affect what the ultimate map will be. Youve heard from all of us before that we really want to understand how infrastructure is keeping pace with the addition of housing. Youve heard from all of us that we need to understand how what were doing intersects with, not only existing state density bonus legislation, but what might arise in the future so that we dont inadvertently end up with rules that take us in a direction that we hadnt anticipated. And given the overall complexity of this process. So my view is keep going, i think that the work thats been done to date has been terrific. And that taking the time to do an indepth dive on the subject matters that you raised is absolutely appropriate. And you will get continue to get feedback from all of the interested groups leading to the next, you know, version of the map that reflects the work thats done to date, in addition to what we learned from these additional hearings. So thank you. Actually on behalf of the commission, for all the work thats been done by staff, in getting us to this point in time , commissioner imperial. Yeah, first, i also, you know, thank the mayor, in, directing the Planning Commission and department to revisit the housing, the rezoning that is going to happen, and also, i guess for me, this is my question in terms of our timeline, since theres going to be additional hearings, is this going to be pushed back in terms of other informational hearings that were about to hear . I thought that were going to hear this, you know, kind of like updates this month, april or spring. Is that going to be, moved, moved in and youve youve got the memo. That goal is these topics feed into the ultimate map in rezoning. Take preservation for instance. I mean, weve had a lot of discussion, at hpc in internally on preservation. But i think we have to have a hearing on preservation. And because of changes in state law that kind of are coupled with the potential rezoning, how we preserve, those assets, buildings and Cultural Assets that we want to preserve. And we want to lay out a plan for you all and have community weigh in and have that baked into our rezoning proposal. So so i think these are all ingredients that will ultimately go into a kind of a future, a map. But again, weve got to do it relatively quickly because in that kind of planning world timeline, you know, you all i mean, some of you have been here where its taken eight years to get to kind of a plan adoption. We dont have that time. Right. Weve got to do this by the end of next year. And thats baking in the legislative process. So i dont set out specific dates, but that memo kind of shows the topics and well try to get to them quickly. But but but i think we need to have those hearings. You need to understand those and give us input before we present you with kind of a new map. But i think conceptually, well all know kind of where its going based on those discussions. And well weve got copies of that memo to you have it in your email. Well post it on our website. But theres hard copies too. But again, its more topic based, not necessarily a specific timeline. Yeah i just want to also clarify in terms of because i know that there are still ongoing outreach that is happening still, and whether, you know, and from last hearing to we kind of had an informal discussion about the outreach and the, you know, the types of that people hasnt heard about this, how when we mean quickly, what did the what do we mean by that . Does that mean like mailers . Because thats something that we were brought up from last week. Conversation. Yeah. And i mean, we can again, that could be part of our discussion to in an early one like how were going to because were youll see the outreach were doing. We kind of lay it out in some of the additional outreach. But i think as far as like if we were going to send a mailer based on heres the proposal that were looking at to rezone, wed want a proposal to send out. So thered be kind of issues as to when the best time to send that out. But we can talk about that as we talk about the timeline as well. Vice president , more, director ross, i have a couple of very conductors. I have a couple of very practical questions, can we use the upcoming slightly slower days thursdays, where we may actually want to cancel, to use it to have constructive questions and answers focused on our various areas of expertise to help put some new stakes in the ground and broaden the discussion of how we do this. Sure. One of my questions is, are we going to use arcgis to basically model the city throughout in visualizing increased density, not just by a little street here or there, but we have the tools to do it differently. We have the database to do it. I mean, my recommendation would be wed be more topic based so experts could come and advocates and people who are interested in those topics. But if you have additional questions, concerns or topics you want us to touch on, by all means send them to us and well figure out kind of when to put them. I would like to actually, as a people hear us speak about it, for example. No, no, thats what i mean by we would add them onto a calendar as a topic so we can present to you what were doing and you can respond, i would like to do this as quickly as possible to help you to kind of not interrupt the flow of your work, but feed and a lively discussion in the upcoming weeks to basically help you broaden the approach of how you look at this and move forward with new input and create probably different perspectives of how to solve certain problems which havent been addressed before. Another another issue would be for me to look really in a very small scale and i think mayor breed sensitively touches on that finance ability of immediate actions. Construction types, lower buildings a

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