Continuance for september 10, 2015, but i believe we discussed that to september 24th at this point. Any Public Comment on item the one item proposed for continuance not seeing Public Comment is closed. Commissioner richards move to continue item one to accepted 24 on that motion to continue item one to september 24th commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioner wu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places us under the consent calendar for items 2, 3 a and 3 b i do have one speaker cards for item 2 a mic a ma sell florlz we will is have to place it in others regular calendar. Items 2 and 3. Right for the San Francisco west side kriejdz Environmental Impact report okay. Well have to pull that off of content and put it on the regular calendar that pulls 3 a and b off consent we cant act until the Environmental Impact report is soundproofed. Okay. Thats outlook. Shall we place those we did commissioners on august 6th we committed to items that got continued off of that calendar to be heard first thats why with the discretionary review items first then is regular calendar and those will apply to the first two items under the regular calendar would you like to take up this after item 12 or 13 and after item 12. Very good commissioners items 2, 3 ab on the regular calendar after 12 if commissioners, if theres nothing further diminishes matters item 4 for the draft minutes for august 16th and draft minutes for august 13th. Any Public Comment on item the drvts not seeing Public Comment is closed. Move to approve draft minutes. On that and with only have one set of minutes thats august 6th thats not 2. Would you like to continue the august 13th. Commissioner moore which ones do you have. I have august 6th. I have august 6th. Move to approve august 6th drvts. Second. Thank you, commissioners on that motion then to do you want the minutes for august 6th commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards chiu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero shall we continue august 13th minutes. Yes. Please. Oh, ill need another motion. A motion to continue. Move to continue. To september 10th then. Correct. Commissioner moore move to continue. Okay. September 10 second. On that motion to continue the drvts for august 13th to september 10th commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards chiu and commissioner president fong so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places us under item six the action items with commissioners this will be the first time you take up this matter with something discuses under your consideration of the rules and regulations and it was determined or recommend we take this up quarterly or on as a needed basis illicit hand out this thank you. I have one. Commissioners this is a running lists by individual commissioners to either get schedule a hearing a joint hearing informational presentation on any variety of issues on this reformatted version the top darker stated i shaded gray are completed that are several in the milled about a lighter shade of gray we have scheduled hearings to address those issues and there are the bottom sort of just pail white items are the remaining issues that i think about lend themselves to focus our discussion on today i think it probably will be whoerth in the commissioners that made the request to add them to the action item list to remind the commission as a whole what the request as about and then you guys could either determine this item has been accurately addressed in the past or Additional Information is needed it is helpful to the department to respond what format is adequate to respond for example, with an individual meeting with the commissioner of a written memo or an informational presentation to the whole commission so i think that both be the appropriate way to go. First of all, thank you for color coding and going through this list and checking off what has been accomplished maybe ill open up to commissioners, if you dont mind the whites ones on the bottom is there anything we want to remove we have relevance to us anything that rise to great authority. I believe in the white boxes originated by myself in april talks about the constitutional master plan origins are something that are rare whether quoted in order to do the process justice and im talking genericly to all institutions well be welladvised to visit the origins that dates back quite a away the reason why it was created some of the people that approximately created it have volunteered to fill us in i think this is good for the department to hear it including discussing how the changes of time and technology we might want to start the standard for what is a good mp and when is not im familiar with the i mp having practiced across the state of california and other states i think we need to have something to compare apples to apples there is a Small Institution and larger and different kinds of institutions a companion night life that is better understood by all of us to go back to the origins i urge us to have a revisit of that subject matter. Thank you commissioner johnson. Thank you very much i think the only item with my name on that the sfmta joint meeting there are lots of reasons that one needs to be a priority if i had theres lots of things to talk about whether it is a joint hearing or a separate workshops i can attend were taking up the transportation fee i dont think we have a clear idea of one what is the current phasing for the frapgs project especially in the area were looking at a lot of growth additional two, how are rethinking overall how to supplement the system with other methods of modes of transportation were hair about shifting out of cars and have hear about the budget shortages in muni i dont understand how the sfmta is going to do bridge the gap how are we going to incentivizes better management programs like the other larger projects i think we can take a joint hearing to talk about those issues when they come up in our hearings were more good frankly, i wish we had been more informed is that enough money where will it go there are many questions to answer i want to see that prioritized in the next few months. Thank you noted commissioner richards. Are partly with commissioner johnson on the joint hearing the mta given the folks that have been coming are here if potrero hill basically deliver the people where we need to go and also the transportation the t s p the money is another good question is that enough money and in terms of the one id like to my i have several on her actually more than anybody the compliance is part of the enforcement for telephant in th room half of those are based the rough numbers 26 lots were used for dwelling units and have the gentleman who is the planner on that project give me the rough numbers on the 28 dwelling units if you actually looked ates transported the money if you want to legalize those dwelling units in hundred Million Dollars it is something that would potentially the board of supervisors might want to look at as well. Director ram. Thank you commissioners it would be helpful for us if and for example, for the 3 items that were discussed if we could talk about how best to respond in terms of the format so for example, commissioner moore on the item on i mp do you see that as a hearing or a memo we talk about the origins i mean whats yours preferred forefront. My preferred format is 9 hearing in which we can ask questions and get different interpretations weve ive found myself sittings between different kinds of chairs no feedback on the plans so this might be the moment to clear up the basic queasy questions. Commissioner richards. For my own in the form of an informational heres what we found and this is approved roughly and Business Licenses start with a memo. Im assuming it will be a big number i think it is medium for the public. Just for clarity those are requests by individual commissioner do we get a sense of consensus were in agreement with the format and the prioritization were trying to do that today; right . Commissioner johnson. I feel the mta is as informational from staff or an actual joint. Id like to have a joint hearing i want to ill see what my fellow commissioners have to say but ill open if this is something that cant happen were saying the next hearing do i not dated is a year from now im open to a workshop maybe something in person what the other commissioners from mta talk about as well staff and commissioner moore. I just actually want to express my support for the sfmta joint meeting there are all kinds of bulletproof questions like the busses i see more and more conflict with the other buses capital o other buses including an incredible challenge by the drooifz habit of some are of uber type i dont know what the adjective for that type of transportation who are basically somewhat not quite in the grove of how to drive in the city so id like to have those bullet points added to our presentation how are we protecting themselves and basically keeping our updates better. Commissioner wu. I am happy to support the sfmta joint hearing or hearing id like to ask we have a meeting first maybe commissioner president fong and with the commissioner with the mta board that helps staff in creating the presentation and bring it to the full joint. Thats a good suggestion commissioner paskinjordan. Sorry. Commissioner richards i think that is the highest point on my list commissioner johnsons i wanted to see where we are this is what we have and the reliability and the state of where we are so we can get an understanding were hearing from the public issues but not sure how to quantify those. I think jay marshall. I apologize many monitor. Oh, apologize for being late any wife in some outpatient surgery this is a High Priorities in regards to this issue im supportive of what most of the commissioners are saying informational is good first if under is a convince i want to know and if it merits a joint hearing will be Different Levels and some things we mark farrell need to know about them and other things interact with the other commissioners in regards to those issues and transportation might not one of those. Commissioner moore. If we could pick up a couple of items commissioner richards and myself and in january over many years in the past have talked about the broadening of residential guidelines if this is already work in process director ram perhaps you could give us ever so often a summary or whoever and we know the treetops under which those guidelines are being looked at we dont center to bring it up again, it is already in process progress. I think in this case ill have mr. Johnson to write a memo theres been a lot of work and guidelines for scale in the last year or so isle so ill have him do it memo if h that make sense. Hang on thats helpful for staff to get the prioritization some will take more preparation time and jonas will put there into the schedule maybe before the end of the year i want to bureau were limiting opening it up for Public Comment ms. Hester. Im dealing with the item that was on the agenda it is the same i think that guess the same i think where youre going it is good we really important issue that commission needs to know the issues youre talking about commissioner johnson commissioner moore and commissioner richards all came from the commission there were multi year battles to get the t d i f is transformed into the t s f m the rational for the commission doing that and the board of supervisors doing that really needs to be discussed my understanding of staffing from planning and mta is a really dont have a clue of how to get the transit fee and grandfathering certain projects should be something that is really discussed more than a staffer report two weeks from now with regards to the xhaechld of arts the i mp process started with the agencies because that was very concerned about developers hospitals and post educational institutions disregarding the Planning Department desire for them to state their intentions to expand and add new people that are served and so he went through 3 years of hard work at the Planning Commission and at the board of supervisors i urge you to have at the end the hearing that commissioner johnson was talking about it is a public hearing and what commissioner moore was talking about as a public hearing memos that go back and forth and have no opportunity for the public and the commission to have a dialogue are interesting but theyre not educational for the broader public and the people that watch sfgovtv so i think you deserve the time to have a joint meagerly with the mta and to have a real discussion with the Planning Commission present and supervisor cop that carried the legislation i think your heading in the right direction i encourage it. Is there any other Public Comment. Good afternoon commissioner president fong and Vice President and commissioners today is im donald a resident in San Francisco concerned about the housing crisis i have to say a Public Interest first of all, i began i hear a. Sir, i apologize it is Public Comment as it relates to the action item general Public Comment will come up shortly after this. Sorry. Any other Public Comment on the actions item list . Good afternoon. Im georgia im interested in the residential Design Guidelines youll not have a hearing but ive talked with some of the staff it would be we have in the staff that is working on the Residential Design Team could meet with the public 7 or 8 years we had the meeting on the dr or more those were great a quick example of the details sometimes the guidelines get confused oh, on page 11 but their quoting package 23 say the project is maybe in the publics briefs it creates a confusion for you and the public i think that that is the kind of thing that would be talked about from the staff was working on the Residential Design Team or more could reach out to the public but it is important for the public that is all they really have are the Residential Design Team so from the staff could do outreach there are people that are happy to come in and spend time with staff thank you very much. Is there any additional Public Comment on the action item list okay Public Comment is closed. Commissioner richards. I have one more thing on the sfmta joint hearing and something that commissioner johnson said we keep approving projects with parking that is less than the number of units and not understood what the ownership was whether in line with the percentage i think that is interesting an interesting thing to add to the list we hear that all the time and another one commissioner johnson mentioned i worked in private industry we were surveyed on the t d m for the companies entitlements im not sure we understand the projects we approve so a loop envoy those t d ms delivering and that stuff gets recorded bay back to the mta but never reaches us we could add that to the list of mta. Very good commissioners, i do appreciate the discussion i think that will certainly help staff to respond if i hear correctly there is a consensus on 3 items in particular the history of i mp and a potential joint hearing with sfmta and the compliance enforcement update and a rdt update through either the directors report or a memo. Excuse me. On the last item clearly well have to have public merging remembers this is a starting want the revised guidelines will need to go through the progressing progress and certainly followup merging. Commissioner antonini. Not to throw in more stuff one thing ive asked for this in the past the public will appreciate will staff will go through the zoning and independence for the commissioners and for the general Public Comment by the way, even after many years of the Planning Commission zoning types changes o change quibble and a lot of them change in the time he did the eastern neighborhoods so a brief refresher on the general categories and what is allowed and allowed would be good for all concerned. Commissioner richards. Today is my one Year Anniversary on the commission and i think weve come a long way so i hand to the director and the commission for moving on this and the ones on the white well prioritized in the future. Thank you, commissioners there was this was a good decision i apologize. I overruled items 4 and 5 commissioners he questions or comments. Commissioner richards. Three weeks is a long time to be away ive been reading a lot and not missed one meeting we have a Commission Document from meta i know it is on line an interesting read on the terms of the mission in household for children theyre trying to tie the fate of the children to the enhancement to the of the neighborhood so the mission specifically relates to children and how they learn this is a good document what was going around by displacement for another in different neighbors in the bay area there is an interact active map that is associated you can hover our mouse or cursor the chance the displacement it is incredible powerful tool she worked with karen so it is news dot berkley or search for the daytime urban displacement project map on the web an incredible read looking at the future and sunday august 15th china driving the future if we have driver less vehicles and land use has been tlarltd to meet the cars driven by people and driver less cars that pickup people you have Additional Space to have for other things and another good read the atlanta monthly in august they talked about the future of work whether or not work is going away the point it being made for planning in a couple of economic cycles well have more unemployment beca