Commissioner dejesus commissioner wong commissioner melara ask excused commissioner president loftus we have quorum also with us the intern chief of Police Toney Chaplin and joyce hicks. Okay. Good evening and welcome to the wednesday, november 2, 2016, Police Commission meeting im going to make changes to the agenda given the length of the agenda a long closed session handling discipline matters one and 2 to our meeting next week and go ahead and start with general Public Comment. So Public Comment will be two minutes given the length of the agenda and the anticipated number of speeches. Item 3 the public is welcome to address the commission on items not on tonights agenda but within the jurisdiction of the commission. With respect to agenda items, please direct your questions to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or departments or occi personnel. Department, occi or commissioners are to respond to questions but may provide a brief response. Police commission should enter into debates and please limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. Two minutes. Okay general Public Comment . Go ahead. Good evening and welcome. Good evening my name is magic i came from the Sunshine Task force they found the commission in violation of 67. 9 and 67. 7 b and i think that is very important you recognize you cant do 24 again where you ignore the issuance that is a the public needs to have the notice of 72 hours what will be discussed by you on the agenda and i think this is clear no integer and it was really kind of sad you but put your staff and sergeant, next line item. Killing showing shaw her line of reasons and sounds like on over burned employee that need to not be used like this to get your job done i want to say that up until june 22nd meeting i thought the public was notified and hope this never happens again, we dont have been in fact, the Task Force Said if was no in their purview im surprised youre not prepared and building on an item that clearly says in that ordinance that you should not vote on something and have discussions and action without a preparation by yourselves well more commissioners had more knowledge and some only got to when they walked in and part of violation not posted also on the website when the emails went out and the person that does that sergeant, next item. Kilshaw made clear i dont blame her, she does the best of our service the City Attorney was never mentioning she said that so be thrown out and no substantive changes thats not true the item with the holes and amazing higher standard of penal code having a moving vehicle and shall and should different shall is mandatory and shall is discretionary and should is mandatory i hope youll know were not going to tolerate this to get what needs to be done so anyone else gets killed thats the point. Thank you for bringing that up next speaker. Commissioner i was here yesterday what i want to say today is that missing in our deliberations what is going to happen for the good of this city and county of San Francisco is the premeditation of our youth and young adults every time the commission is challenged so to speak you refer to the San Francisco charter the charter needs to be changed the charter needs to be change to reflect the times todays times all over the nation as far as i understand wheezed freedom and what is license and the bills of freedom is license and you may be trained to do whatever but. Always have to have their heart in the right place and understand what is freedom and what is license. And that comes from our training and that comes from your understanding. So young people our ought youth and young adults are now wondering if there is hope and we have a generation that became what they became because of hope but if you deprive our young generation of hope then thats despair we dont need that im leaving you with one thought we need to give our young adults hope thank you next speaker. Good evening clyde. Well a lot going on chief chaplin ill be honest with i was 12k0i7d in you on our leaks it was a stupid thing to say ill say it to your face that was stupid okay. Thats a wash well let that go well let that go we all make mistakes but ill be honest with i talked with 4 cops is chaplain cool enough said welcome chief thank you. Next speaker. Good evening and welcome. Good evening. My name is julian black man im here to address chaplain how you doing Toney Chaplin im a familiar face to you my question to you not just questions but this is a lot going on in the neighborhood we come from the same neighborhood in the ingleside and Toney Chaplin ; right . I can admit that Toney Chaplin was a big part let me go the right way; right . Even the charges are trumpetedup i held i was accountability what i done and what was done is done im a lawabiding citizen you know a father a great person god one of my good brothers was shot by the police and in our neighborhood where i come from other one time he lived you you know as kids we did kids thing but he converted into a rightus life so motivation another part of why i changed my life to do right; right . So im really confused that chaplain would allow Police Officers out of their jurisdiction to come and shot our brother chaplain from our neighborhood i know that man is a good man tony dicker son unarmed it was live reports saying the highspeed chase ill show you not just that but you know trying to see how the world is being is very secretary complicated no information yeah. Thank you, sir okay i know i got to follow the rules maybe chief chaplin can followup on your questions. Thank you, sir. Good evening and welcome. Good evening hello my name is clyde a long time ingleside resident and also asking a question what happened to notorious dicker son in a highspeed chase not involved in a highspeed chase shot over 6 times weve not been able to see him selfhes okay if i say housed at we have did charges stemming fr stemming from assault and not Armed Robbery and robbery homicide as all the charges they have on him we dont know where he is we said want to know where hes located at and how it is possible for the daily city a police to come into the ingleside area and arrest someone and shot someone and we still dont know what happened to him or what is going on if anyone can speak to that we would like to hear that by us being here together appreciate you guys time thank you. Okay. Im going to refer the chief if someone can get the questions thank you, sir fewer comments. Next speaker. Good evening and welcome sergeant. Good evening intern chief and to director joyce hicks this evening im standing before you as is a loved one williams im concerned about several things how can we expect to get to the three hundred plus recommendations presented by the doj and the Blue Ribbon Panel and cant get though the removal of shooting at the vehicles the doj has made it clear theyll not accept that type of language in the use of force order how can we get to through 1 3rd of recommendations that are presented with the union it continues to resist change the process lacks transparent and seems to be substantive not to mention allegations of commissioners speaking pubically and posturing and stating who they want to be the next chief this is inappropriate we must stop right now we must show that we representative reform we must show we support transparent what i want to do the right thing in the eastbound selection of the next chief the chief ive stated need to be one that has a proven track record and is a viable candidate that will be of our interest to everyone i stand before you also extremely troublgd by the San Francisco chronicle news article that reelevated some of the candidates locations of where we come from that is very concerning i know your concerned about it and again, i hope that your good evening to provide us with measurements that will help to explain has to how and where we are in the process and again, thank you for 2350d me the opportunity to speak before you. Thank you, Sergeant Williams. Good evening and welcome. Thank you my name is huey a local Hip Hop Community activist in the community for several years and happen to be a friend of notorious there is a big issue of Police Training id like to ask chief chaplin when will proper Police Training into effect we have a systemic violence from police throughout the country i understand that daily city is different maybe protocol but hopefully push that through i believe that gregory by sfpd that is very, very strange hes 130e7d to be here speaking on our cause on our on behalf but suddenly his house is rated and now like ill call this the super hero police are 0 supposed to be super heroes but cops killing unarmed black men an epidemic and a little been like this people blaming on cell phones that is a piece of that but lastly theres a sense of rage and hatred it permeates through the plod we have an incidents you you know white guys with guns threaten cops theyre not killed they beat the case between the cops dealing with people of color and white people and socalled model minorities that is you know something that needs to be changed and police need to be changed and Police Culture changed you guys need to work on many at some point that is coming to a head id like to see the problem resolved in the most positive is position for both sides to get on with the business policing is a tough job but yeah. Thank you, sir. Good evening and welcome. Aclu Sergeant Williams said a lot of what was said in a letter from jeff adachi and jennifer and myself that appears in the agenda that i and we will leave this room not knowing the status of use of force policy and not knowing even though a impasse is declared and even though cops have basically labored coauthored restraint and the shooting of vehicles a bad practice we at San Francisco still are living other than the policies that are labeled bad practices im really surprised on the working group your proceeding in the way your preceding it is very mystifying i believe that is sabotaging captain laid out a very infest and complicated program dealing with 2 hundred plus recommendations chief chaplin wrote a letter asking for Community Support those of us in the community and stakeholders who will have been working with you on this discouraged and i really am i was sure that was on the action agenda the fact your heading into closed session again is mystifying didnt require i dont know youre doing this. Thank you, sir. Next speaker. Good evening and welcome. Good evening to heck with that david san franciscans for Police Accountability id like to echo what allen and Yolanda Williams said the entire of us situation is a could tropic we said at the original meeting our procedures were chaotic that has been completely played out what hastening sued since the Sunshine Committee has slapped you on the wrist for not rooelgs the documents head of time 72 hours so the community can have a chance to look at it secondly, at the meeting you were to have a deal with the poa weve not forgotten martin there was an agreement the 20 percent was the only thing left and months later on a use of force you guys tell the poa this is the next policy and intern chief chaplin can issue a codifying of the use of force policy you vote on unanimously on june 22nd and we can have a working use of force policy a modern one of the new one so much effort went into within 48 hours there is nothing stopping you equip your intense fear of poa your intense fear of going up against them theyre a group of bullies that have been bullying in commission for years you guys need to get some ovaries to have. Im quite certain i have them ill give you 30 seconds more. You guys need to get a backbone and begin dealing with that relocation union the way it should be dealt with forcefully. Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening and welcome. How you doing a resident the ingleside district we didnt have questions about what can the police do they know what they can do whaumz now this is your opportunity here to make a difference whaumz at the end of the day it is in your lap tifrd and my question is now what is the status an gregory is he in custody and what is he in custody he was not part of that situation you know what i mean so why is this mans house you know what i mean is a bigger plan than what was going on you know what i mean what radio you going to do or the ones that change with the operation you hear me real talk man, you just like me brother so we i fall victim on everything so, now my thing can you not fall victim and take that muscles can you be that muscle real talk. Thank you, sir. Next speaker. clapping. good evening and welcome. Good evening welcome im karen freshmen from justice of mario woods collaboration and san franciscans for Police Accountability 11 months ago today San FranciscoPolice Department excused mario woods by firing squad in front of scores of witnesses including a bus full of School Children on their way home since then under tremendous pressure to have the use of force policy and impervious it is updated you cant terminate officers without an updated policy you unanimously pass it on june 22nd with the input of the Police Officers association and then theyve impede it up until day i ask you chief chaplin to issue the 4 hundred one hundred by the department generally order torment we have a valid use of force policy to that sfpd officers understand the use of force is and you know what the use of force is so they can be disciplined since mario woods execution louis and there was Jessica Williams and this guy in october and now this gentleman shot by the daily city police without an effective use of force policy it is unclear we cant traven people on it or hold them accountable and who rinses San Francisco there is the Police Officers association that runs San Francisco or the mayor of San Francisco run the city please show us thank you, thank you. Next speaker. And i will say we have overflow room 416. The intern chief and director joyce hicks i think so the Police Department is dealing with the racism but once past that they need to deal deal with the training the police needs to be trained to understand the public is not trained and shop making summaries the city will respond to a Police Uniform and start to do it in a holistic manner that will uplift the mindset of Police Officers maybe well come to an understanding thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening mr. Lawrence and welcome. Ladies and gentlemen, of the audience thank you, commissioners once again giving me. I want to give a brief talk on deadly force if you a long time in the last 24 hours two Police Officers were you shot 2, 3, 4 utah an ass nation but if you look at the ultimate cause of San Francisco every time a policeman shots someone without a gun they read about that in the newspaper or so it on the net tea say im going to get the next cop you have two Police Officers on the force that in 10 years opened an banana clips into two unarmed civilians for whatever cause they didnt have weapons i think a new police chief has to look at that i dont know who he is or where he is but i think sir, you should start bringing him before the public secondly, a person in a building i dont know why the public has to be let in by the backdoor and a private party in the front door and 17 sheriffs acting as thugs were not allowed in the building we have to use is janitorial indigents and public building to be available to the public for any event anywhere we shouldnt have to use the backdoor and owen i ought to do something about that last but not least a vote on the occ to turn it into the Accidental Police shooting i want everyone to vote i think ms. Rice has done one of the worse jobs as is occ director thank you for your time. We werent invited to the festivities either. Good evening and welcome. My name is shannon on may 13, 1998, of the stewardship shot and kindly my friend during a stack out they were trying to apprehensive someone on a drug wandered cox went into the backdoor and she was a passenger in the front as the vehicle left the residence recessing listen fired into the car and suddenly shely she was 17 years old after nearly a 9 year battle the residents the statute of limitations expired not because the facts and every day failed to as voted on in the past june sheila what about alive today shes been gone longer than alive two painful for her family and given me permission to speak on her behave theyve heard about the use of force policy and the family strongly supports mrofltz from shooting at moving vehicles her family as transformed into a sense of law we need to see sheila grow she was robbed of opportunities to live her life and create a family of her own her 10yearold niece and nephews on her through photos nothing will bring sheila back but hope this didnt happen were grateful to the Police Commission and the Bar Association for hard working to make sure that bayer officers from shooting 09 vehicles are stopped the q poa stop this from being for the policy the sfpd is not barricade from 1409 at vehicles and this type of thank you, thank you for being here. Next speaker. Good ev