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SFGTV Police Commission 7616 July 11, 2016

Deputy chief hector sinus for acting chief tony chaplin and the director of the occ joyce hicks. Thank you, good evening, everyone. Welcome to the july 6th Police Commission meeting. Thank you for being here. Weve got a full house, and a long agenda with a lot of important items. Were going to go ahead and ive had a request from supervisor avalos who has to take a plane tonight to move our agenda around, so colleagues, ill note were going to move item number 2 first. And take that before item number 1 to accommodate the supervisors schedule. Before we do that, just im going to ask the sergeant to remind us all of the rules of order of the Police Commission. We want to hear from everyone and there are some specific rules that governor how we do Public Comment and all that. So sergeant please read those. Speaker thank you, everyone. Speaker rules of order, members fts public to end titled to comment on items prior to action taken on that item. In addition, the agenda shall provide an opportunity to address the commission on items of interests to the public which are under the jurisdiction of the commission and have not been the subject of Public Comment on other items on the agenda. The president may set a reasonable time limit for each speaker depending on the item and length of the agenda and the number of persons to speak on the item. Tonights Public Comment time will be limited to two minutes. Speakers must speak from the podium and speak clearly into the microphone. Speakers are to refrain from screaming and yelling and using profanity. Police, possess necessarily or occ or commissioners are required to respond to requests unless requested to do so by the president. Commissioners and Police Personnel shall re to statements made by members of the public. Police department or occ staff addressing the commission. Applause are pro hib ilting. Members of the audience may be to see or participate in the meeting or that endanger any meeting participants. Cameras and taping devices may be brought into the commissioner hearing room, however, persons are prohibited from using flash, camera lights or other devices that may disrupt the meeting. The President Shall possess the power and duty to order removing remove from the meeting any person who commits the following acts after being warned that such conduct could lead to their removal. Disorderly conduct that disrupting the course of the meeting such as making noise and speaking out of turn or refusing to comply with Commission Rules governor the meeting. A breach is a peace, or violent disturbance tending to disrupt the do and orderly course of the meeting. Disobedience of the Commission President which shall include an order to be seated. Other unlawful interference with the meeting. Speaker to have a productive meeting, ill need everyones corporation and you can make sure we get a chance to hear from everyone. Thank you. Ill also notes we have an overflow room for folks who are not able to be in this space. It will be at the north light court. So and that will be televised so folks can follow there. Thank you. Were going to sergeant, call the first line item. Speaker presentation of supervisor avalos, police reform, budget drafted dated 2016 discussion. Speaker good evening, welcome supervisor avalos. Thank you, president loftus, commissioners, deputy sinus, deputy hicks. Thank you for having me. I want to thank you for your service on serving on this body. San francisco is undergoing termoil and i want to bring our city together and to do that, we really have to work to establish trust, transparency, and accountability on all sides whether were looking at from the Community Perspective of how members of the community kneel and are harmed by the Police Department or on the side of the commission and the Police Department looking at how we can build trust. How we can put measures in place that will enable us to build trust and have a stronger effort to minimize force, and minimize and stop officer involved shooting with impunity. Thats a task we have as a city to unite together. I have been working off and on with different organizations, Community Groups and Justice Coalition groups for looking at how we can put in measures to assure accountability, to reforms that are being discussed so theyre not just adopted, but are implemented. And one of the things that ive come up with and i talked about last time or Board Meeting two weeks ago was this idea of putting on reserve, a portion of the Police Departments budget to be released as the Police Department have reforms thats agreed upon. I came out with an alarming number. 200 million that was my first statement about it when i was asked point blank by the media, what were the size of your reserve and i said 200 million. Thats a sizeable amount. The Police Department budget is 577 million. Theyll be 377 million, but i realized 200 million is too large of an amount. We need a sizeable amount to assure the department is going to come before the board of supervisors to show to discuss progress the department is making on reforms that are being adopted and implemented. Not just adopted, but implements by the department to the department can show the transformation is happening and the conduct and the be havenor of officers on the street. So i have a draft proposal. You have copies shed there. Theres copies on the table if people want to get copies of that, and these are ideas that have been in the works. Some have been adopted and others are being discussed. I have reached out to acting chief chaplin, and deputy chief sinus about getting input about what this list of refoerls would look like. We havent squared up on when were going to meet facetoface to discuss. Weve had emails where weve exchanged dates and the department is going to share dates. It will be next week well settle on that. To me it makes sense that the Police Department identifies what they want to be measured but we have to make sure theres a media input by the board and the commission and the Community Side of what we expect the measurements to be in order for the department to show theyre obtaining specific thresholds in meeting reform. Thats what this measure is. Ill go through the different sections. Essentially, we would put a portion of the Police Departments budget on reserve. Im saying up to 100 million. I think a sizeable amount, whatever it is will make sure the police comes to the board and how theyre making progress. One was to have a joint Police Commission meeting, Board Meeting to go over the Reform Efforts so the Police Commission can talk about whats been adopted and the Police Department can talk about how theyre implementing the measures. So first is on the use of force. There was a policy that was preliminary adopted two weeks ago. I still think thats being worked on. But i think whatever is adopted that we put specific matrix on for the department to show progress in that. Some of the ideas we have is, you know, a certain percentage of officers are being trained by january 1st of 2017. Were looking at training all full Duty Officers of a new policy by july 1st 2017. So were getting to cover the whole department by a particular year. I think, its going to be clear that the Department Might have different measurements, but we want to be able to come together and what the specific measurements are going to be. We also want to make sure were getting Quarterly Reports on the use of force. How often the instances happened, what has resulted in death and injury. How many officers themselves have suffered any injury in the line of duty as well which would be important to note because policing can be very dangerous work, and thats something hangs over officers head all the time. We want to make sure the effort around crisis intervention can continue. Ive heard talk about training, but we have had a long time year discussion about the model and the model itself have not been adopted and been brought to our precincts. We dont have the teams in our precincts to be able to implement the training that officers should be getting to make sure we are doing whatever we can when we have to confront people who are in a crisis we have a real structured approach and a leadership approach to making that happen. So we have certain measurements on that as you can see on the form. Number of officers who are certified for cit, the number of shifts happening per station. These are some of the matrix we would be looking at in terms of implementing a crisis and its not adopted as a dgo as far as i have been told. Were looking at the early system intervention Early Intervention reform. This is a dgo that has been adopted in terms of implementations, its not clear thats the actual case that the department has implemented the actual Early Intervention system reform, so we want to look at the matrix on that and have the department present to the board of supervisors about fulfilling those matrix. Speaker whats dgo. Speaker department general order which are the rules that the department makes about how well conduct its work. Lets do our best to let the speakers go. Thank you, supervisor avalos. Speaker if youre out of order, ill let you know. Thank you so much, continue, please. Speaker thank you. Were looking at ways to strengthen racial profiling and make sure officers are collecting data and theres actual efforts put in place to make sure that racial profiling is minimized and consequences are made when racial profiling happens. And thats really about collecting information, and going through a process around the process. Also looking at lastly on this list, is establishing more objecting processes for back ground investigations for promotion. We get a lot of laterals that come from other departments to come work for the San Francisco Police Department. And it has been the case in the past where some people coming from other departments have records that really should be more clearly poured over and questioned about whether officers are going to be the best officer to represent the people of San Francisco and to where the badge of the San Francisco Police Department if they come with serious issues from other jurisdictions and also officers who are currently on the department who have shown dramatic use of force that has thats been questionable whether it should be happening. These are the measures we have in place. Im open to further discussion with the Police Department about how to move forward on this. This in order to enact a board like this at the full board of supervisors, i would need six votes. Im not clear if i have six votes. I believe i may, theres the whole public process well go to whether to implement such reforms. The first part of that process has to be some communication between Police Commission, the Police Department, my office, and to get input from the community as well. Time is short for that. But i still believe its possible to put on a reform. Put on a reserve. Condition reform and still square up what those actual conditions will be. I believe this should have been done last year. This was an idea i was trying to get my colleagues on Budget Committee to adopt last year. And i felt if we had more scrutiny from the board of supervisors about the department and what was happening around the department and use of force and officer involved shooting, we could have prevented the shootings that occurred. We have seen great harm in San Francisco that has happened since then. Weve seen our city torn apart. Weve seen communities that have trust with the department have that trust completely eroded. We have to come together and we have to make sure were working across all of our city departments including the board of supervisors and the Mayors Office and the Police Commission to make sure we have transparency, accountability and implication of reform to have thank you supervisor avalos for your comments. [applause] so this is an item, colleagues its on for discussion so its not an item to take action on, but make sure were informed. You have a copy. It appears your proposal has been revised since june 15th. Yeah. Speaker some of the matrix have changed. Speaker the change from the matrix and the use of force, we changed the matrix based on what was adopted. Im looking at an ordinance thats addressing use of force as well that actually could be stronger than what the Police Commissioner adopts, but this the matrix for on this form are based on what was adopted preliminaryly by the commission. I dont think this reserve works so much to make you and the department adopt policies more than actually show progress in the implementations adopted. You reduce it had to 200 million to 100 . What percentage of the Police Budget is that, of 100 million s. If the Police Budget is 575 speaker i say up to 100 million. A sizeable amount, that would require the attention that would grab the attention of the department and the Police Commission could be less than that, but thats a sizeable amount is 100 million. The amount of the size of the reserve isnt as important as the resistance of the reserve. I see. Do you know i feel from our time here and this might be for the deputy chief, which part of the budget is percent pell . Is personnel . I think roughly 95 . Speaker thank you for being here and sharing this with us. Im sure my colleagues have questions. Commissioner melara. I think, last time, that was one of the questions i had, how it would impact the department. I was wondering if do you have have you had the opportunity to talk to the mayor and the board of supervisors Budget Office to find out what impact it will have on the department . Im actually talking to but the impact of what happened in the department. Ive talked to the mayor staff. I havent talked to the mayor directly. The mayor and i dont really talk a lot. But and our Budget Office is every member of the board is overseeing the budget. Speaker okay. Im assuming let me say this. On Budget Committee, we did approve three Police Academy classes and approved the classes that the department will reach its 1,091 authorized strength adopted in 1994. The last time it happened was in 20092010. They have the money to meet the staffing requirement of the department. Way proved the funding for training, for the body cameras, and question is whether i want to prove prove support for tasers or not. Thats something that will be before me on the 19th. But so far i think thats whats been adopted. 99. 9 of the Police Department budget was adopted and there was 3 million at the board. That gives out the balance. Speaker the 95 the 95 is for staffing. Even if you guys approve those academies, those would impact those academies as well. Only if we dont release the funds and if the department doesnt move forward on reform, thats before the board of supervisors whether we should release funds. If the department is carrying out reforms and implementing reforms, i think the board has a strong case to release the funds to make sure that the officers are getting paid and the academies are getting paid. The board has a political decision whether to release the funds or not. Just one more thing. Most of these are policy issues, so it is on our hands as the Police Commission to do so and to implement if implementation goes to the department so the department has little to do with the policy piece, so it would be upon us. Speaker im not sure what you mean by the department what it means, youre asking the commission to pass these policies in order for the department to prove they can do what the date to do what theyre doing, so my question, i guess is that youre actually telling the commission to pass these policies, but youre going to punish the department by withHolding Money from the department. I dont see anything about punishing anyone. I want to actually come to a way that we can unite on how the department is going to carry out performs thats adopted. Its not just adopting reforms. We heard a lot from the former chief that were making progress on reforms, and then we had another person of color killed on the streets of San Francisco. And so i want to make sure that doesnt happen again. How do we make sure were actually adopting new policy and that policy is implemented in the department. And so i dont know what policies youre going to adopt. But the ones that you are going to adopt, i want to make sure we have specific matrix we can work out. I want to make sure that when we do have a conversation with the police with the police chief about what makes sense in terms of having specific matrix to show that the department is carrying out its reforms, that we actually have a clear document thats not going to be about wh

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