Good afternoon. I like to call the august 23rd, 2022 meeting of the public utilitys to order. President moran. Commissioner maxwell yoochl commissioner paulson. We have a quorum. This meeting is in person at San Francisco city all room 400 code 54953e and mayors supplement to february 25, 2020 emergency proclamation. All present and attending in person that all health and safety protocol and building rules must be adhered to. Sanitize are stations and masks are Available Upon request. We welcome the publics participation during comment periods. For each item the commission will take 2 minutes first from those in external those in the meeting remote. Members provide remote comment dialing 4158550001 access code 24934770565. Press star 3 to raise your hand. Lirment to the items discussed unless you are under yes or no Public Comment. Do not stay on the topic and limit to the item. Public comment be civil and address comments remarks to the commission not to individual commissioners or staff. On behalf of the commission i would like to thank sfgovtv staff for assistance. Silence your electronic device. Commissioner ajami arrived and consent 10a removed and will not be considered today. Thank you. Donasm before the first item of i like to say the San Francisco sfpuc acknowledges stewards of the lands located within the historic territory of the Muwekma Ohlone tribe. The sfpuc recognizes that every city residing in the greater bay area has and continues to benefit from the use of the Muwekma Ohlone tribe lands since before and after the San Francisco public utilitys found nothing 1932. It is important we recognize the history of the tribal landsos which we reside but acknowledge and honor the fact the Muwekma Ohlone people have established a working partnership with the sfpuc and flourishing members in the San Francisco communities today. Call the next item. First is item 3 adopt renewed findings and legislation to a hybrid meeting during the covid19 and agendaize a similar resolution went next 30 days. Thank you. Would you open for Public Comment. Members who wish to make Public Comment on item 3, press star 3 to raise your hand to speak. Do we have members present to provide comment on item 3 . Callers for number 3 . We have one caller with their hand raised. Caller this is item number three. Caller you wish to speak to item 3 . Caller are you there . Apologies i went top star for item 7. Thank you. There are no callers. Thank you. Public comment on item 3 is closed. Any discussion by commissioners . Can i have a motion and second . I will second. Motion and seconded roll call. President moran. Aye. Ajami. Aye. Maxwell. Aye. Paulson. Aye. And that passes, item 4 approval of the minutes of july 12 of 22. Thank you. Public comment, please . Members of public who wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 4, approval of the Minutes Press star 3 to speak. Do we have members who wish to provide Public Comment on item number 4 . Seeing none. Are there hands raised. There are no callers in the queue. Thank you Public Comment on item 4 is closed. Discussion by the commission . Motion and second, please. Move to approve. Second. Moved and seconded. Roll call. President moran. Aye. Vice president arc jamy aye. Maxwell. Aye. Paulson. Aye. And the minutes are approved. Next item. Item 5 is general Public Comment members of the public who wish to make 2 minutes of general Public Comment in the jurisdiction and not on todays agenda, press star 3 to speak. Do we have members present who wish to provide general Public Comment . Mr. Moderator, are hands raised for item 5, general Public Comment . There are 4 callers. This is for general Public Comment, item no. 5. Caller i opened your line. Commissioners my name is francisco decosta. First and foremost, i would like to see the recent progress made with the digested and in general the site the [inaudible] located. I have not found that. Was attending the Ethics Committee meeting and i see that when it come to some contract, the sfpuc has failed, i repeat, failed. [inaudible] something that [inaudible] was involved with. And the present sfpuc leadersment to install a similar model and that is not right. Our Community Benefits should go to the community. And not in the pocket of many of the people. Nothing much as change said. And i got some information that the present San Francisco da is working on something i dont want to reveal it. We are working on it so that we can mutts it in an investigative reporting. The San Francisco sfpuc commission has learned nothing from the federal investigation. Thank you very much. Thank you for your comment. Next caller this. Is martin my comment is about the agenda. And im surprised to see that it does not include the water supply update. Because the july 6 and august 9 meetings were cancelled the last update for conditions on july fifth. Back then just over a million fee like a million 46 fee. Enough to last [inaudible] 4 and a half years. Given todays workshop is looking at the draught is justified or not the water supply update i was looking for and would have been expected. Thank you. Thank you for your comment. Next caller you have 2 minutes. Thank you, again. Chair and members [inaudible] i will talk about the basics sfpuc. Im not in the bay area now i hope to be back. And i feel that our first parody [inaudible] is to ensure the reliability and quality of water and sewer and power first and foremost for the citizens of the city and county of San Francisco. Here is why i say. Because when i [inaudible] in city and county of San Francisco, i expect anywhere i go will [inaudible] and the water will be rung. And the wastewater rung because there are basic things i do with electricity and water. I feel that clean power sf should have an engagement with the public. When i pull up the website it looks stateck. Im not seeing much in the way of updates. And im not an expert on social media and not sure if i should tweet things several times a day. I think there should be [inaudible] the progress we are making. In order to advance the cause of clean power sf. Moving toward 100 renewable energy. For San Francisco. I feel also [inaudible] i want to take a stronger hundred in interfacing with other agencies for the power needs. When i hear we talk about pg and e. I would like to see sfpuc more involved you are the clean power provider. I think you do a good job at it. [inaudible]. Thank you and i look forward to this meeting continuing on today. Appreciate it. Thank you. Next caller you have 2 minutes. Im john, once again like to thank the commissioners, im not commenting on number 7 now item 7 i have been around for the last year and a half under different workshops you doing. Im disappointed today that the workshop i feel can pick up the whole meeting like you have done for other workshops. It is truncated. The other thing is the format you have where you have one group speak. This august fourth, the state water board held a workshop on the biological goals for phase one of the bay delta plan. What was great about that was they had different viewpoints to get the presentation and people were able to counter each other or discuss. Bring out facts. And i think this is something that if you lacked. He said and she said and you go on instead of having a dialogue where you have facts and science presented. And can be rebutted. I hope Going Forward you can do that. The other thing is, i would ask you to with draw the lawsuit against the bay delta plan. You are stuck on the voluntary plan, which is not going to work and which i reminds you many people have told you in presentations that the science is faulty. [inaudible] and other science. Once again. Thank you for your time. Please, make sure you dont have the dichotomy fish and humans instead of the whole ecosystem we can exist together. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your comments. There are no more callers. General Public Comment on item 5 is closed. Thank you. Next item. Number 6 is communications. Commissioners any questions or comments about communications provide . Seeing none. Public comment. Members who wish to make 2 minutes of remote comment on item 6 press star 3 to speak. Are there members who wish to provide comment on item 6, communication . Do we have any speakers with hands raised for item 6 . No, there is one caller in the queue. Hello i opened your line you have 2 minutes. Thank you again president moran. [inaudible] i talk about the communications. Im interested in this integrated resource plan. However, when i go into this item, i pull up a 4 page pdf and go to the bottom it says clean power sf resource the link is broken. There is a typo and i was able to figure it out. But im not prepared to comment on this because you have not prepared the link and did not check them. In the name of transparency i think we need to fix that. So anyway. Moving on to that. It is important and able to do it 100 renewable. Other mention of which i was able to access that document is the resolution confirming the improvement prosecutes of the electrical system on Treasure Island. And i am one who [inaudible] have responsiblesed powerful failures. Weather a brief 10 second outage or i dot 1977 blackout it lasted 24 hours. I remember it. I think i was in [inaudible] time. So everybody should be able to enjoy the Live Electric service especially with older systems that are showing age. This [inaudible] make of it would result in a concrete Action Investment to improve the system of to have a close to total liability if possible. Thank you. Thank you for your comment. 2 additional callers have joined the queue. Caller i opened your line, you have 2 minutes. Caller, are you there . Yes. Im mary a San Francisco resident for over 30 years. 24 of those who are tune in the to the workshop understand that you have a very full agenda. We have drafted a statement i will read. Mrs. This is on item 6 communications we are not on 7 yet. Thank you. Uhhuh. Moderator, do we have other callers. Next caller i opened your line, you have 2 minutes. Thank you very much this is brett [inaudible] hetch hetchy this communication line providing the list of people who stayed at the power outage in the bunk house. And will ip just wondering something that only the special people can do or can the general public do it the general public will [inaudible] campground on the open leaving. Does not arc pore they were official trips. Im trying to understand what the policy is. Thank you. Thank you. There are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. Public comment on item 6 is closed. Commissioners any further discussion on item 6 . Commissioner ajami. I wanted to acknowledge the work done on studying the occurrence it was great and comprehensive reportful appreciate it to be able to read it and see all the work that is going in this. I would say i cant tell you how many people often ask me about the issues it come up in different outlets and people are more aware. It is good to have formation you can share with the public. I wonder, the im not sure if possible, great to have a short presentation attached this at some point and presented at one of the commission meetings. Deupon pending on the timing and availability. Thank you. Any mr. Deputy director we are happy top present we will come back next time to talk about the Public Health hearing if there are questions at this meeting we can and we are always available. Thank you very much it was great. Thank you. Other comments from the commission. And go to the next which is 7 our hearing on the design drought. Company comments as we get into this. This process of hearings relating to how we plan and allocate Water Supplies started almost 2 years ago. When commissioner herrington requested a series of hearings and started with 2 hearings on alternate plans from improving the fishery followed by water supply budget. A hearing on water demand forecasting and another hearing on alternate Water Supplies. And the last one this past october was on Climate Change impacts. This is the 7th. Such hearing. And it is different than the others in at least one respect thap is that i think part of the impetus for the hearings was a concern by others that we were being too conservative in the way we managed our Water Supplies. And coupled to that a concern that they felt they were not having an opportunity to have their voices heard. And the hearings provided an opportunity for the discussion and also to make sure that various points of view were heard. General manager herrera restarted the meetings of the bay area water stewards consists of the usual sense plus folks from the downtown interests and others. And they have been engaged in discussion about water supply related issues. In that changes somewhat the purpose of the meeting. There is an on going and productive process went bay area water stewards for this discussion. We are now providing the only student for the issues to be aired. There will be others the primary purpose of this hearing is to bring the current status of the discussion about design droughts the commission and the public. Because it has not been in that forum today. Given that we are limited purpose, i asked the presenters the ngos and staff to limit presentations to 15 minutes. And i have suggested although not require, that people who want to submit comments may do so dye by e mail. This is not an action item there is no time sensitivity to receiving your comments. The comments will be compiled and provided to the commission and can be made without limits on time or word count. For those who find that tractive that would help stream line our operations today and would be appreciated. And i said the normal procedure is still in affect for those who want to provide oral testimony. I think thats it and first upper the ngos. I understand this peter will be making that presentation and you are hear in person. Which is i dont know if you other first public testimony to take place in person. But, welcome. Can i ask the tvfects to bring up my sliced. Good afternoon president moran and commissioners and staff. Noise to see you all in person for the first time in arc while. Im peter, the policy director for the river trust. Dave warn and chris shoots had trouble making to the city today. They will call in later. Im going to jump right inform appreciate the opportunity. So a reminder why we are here. State adopted the bay delta plan update calling for 40 unimpaired flow february to june the goals to restore fresh water ecosystems and assure a reliable water supply. That should be our goal. The river is in bad shape. Salmon population is less than 1 . Toxicology blooms in the delta and problems go to the bay. The design drought you know but for people watching, combines 2 of the worst droughts the 6 year 8792 drought and the driest 7677. 8 and a half year drought. My understanding it was arbitrary the way it was create after the 87 and 92 drought. You see San Franciscos design drought is more conservative. 5 years required by urban Water Management plans the governor encouraged an extra year and sfpuc the out liar. A lot has changed since the arabic 90s. Headed to 92 drought dma monday was 290 million gallons per day. Got an update this last fiscal under 190. So dropped a lot. And of course you have the water first policy. Which favors water supply over hydro power generation, that made a big difference in the last couple of years we see more water and storage than we would have otherwise. We have the longterm vulner ability assessment or Climate Change study that looked at the historic data last 100 years plus 1100 years of tree ring data plus 75,000 model runs based on simulated data. I want to point out the storage based system of the sfpuc was designed at a twhiem demand was expected to be more than twice than it is today. The demand projections for up to 400 millions gallons a day. 450. And i oops. Okay. Over laid theful actuals here. Demand is less than half what it was. We have a lot of storage and that could benefit the river by meeting the unimpaired flows. So. Draught planning matters. If you have inflitted length of draught planning or demand of appear we need more water or rationing. We might over build alternative Water Supplies impacts rates. Obviously, there has been an impact on the river because of the design drought 2012 and 206 unimpaired 312 and 2015, it was 79 terrible way to manage an ecosystem. A lot of the other policy decisions based on the design draught. We have the longterm Vulnerability Assessment i will present evidence from this today to suggest the design drought is conservative you am not hear it is prudent. We will see. We asked several questions because we thought you would have them. And these need to be answered to make an informed decision. We asked to produce model runs using current demand and including the bay delta plan and stroll flow what the return pedestrianed design drought is. And we asked sfpuc to confirm on numbers how early run off would benefit San Francisco water entitlement, we did not get a response. I want to point the demands not guilty ltva are sick different numbers they are higher than current demand. I energid the cover. The baseline 227 is 16 higher. And then 269,000 acre feet. Is this is a helpful sentence. Says the bay delta fan unimpaired flow requirement is equal to a 15 increase in demand or a 15 precipitation. Nice if we were given answers to questions we