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WCAU Meet The Press July 7, 2014

Press with david gregory. Good sunday morning on a holiday weekend, a lot going on. This humanitarian crisis on children crossing the border is a staggering problem and so are the numbers. Check this out, more than 50,000 children have been caught since october 2013. That is more than double the year before just to give you some sense of how desperate the situation is. Our Miguel Almaguer joins me from murrieta, california, a town thats been a flash point in this story so far. Good morning. Reporter good morning. This is the Holding Facility in murrieta. It is a flash point, a symbol that galvanized two opposite sides. These are the faces of the desperate and scared, just some of the now thousands of unaccompanied minors packed into 100 temporary shelters dotted across the country. Go back home a group of them greeted with anger, some called hate as protesters turned away busloads of california families after they were illegally caught crossing the border. A journey, this author says is perilous. The children are coming, they dont have any money, they come any way they can, gripping the sides and tops of the Freight Trains through mexico. There are bandits alongside the rails who will rob you and rape you and sometimes kill you. She would know. Shes made the journey spending three months riding on and off riding Freight Trains up the length of mexico researching for her book enriques journey. I think americans have no idea what these children are fleeing, the level of violence. They have to leave. They have been threatened many times by narcos, they have to leave or they will get killed. Reporter for women, Young Mothers like esperanza, the trip is just as dangerous. Thank god Nothing Happened to me. With her 6yearold son she traveled by foot from el salvador before she reached the texas border. I thank god immigration caught me and were okay. I wanted a better life for myself and my son. For so many here now, the question is what does the future hold for these families. The mayor of murrieta, the town with protesters greeted those buses. How come now, how come so many. I think whats happening is down in a less desirable area of the world, you have a lot of crime, poverty, and people are trying to flee to the greatest nation in the world. Cant blame them for that. In a letter he sent to the president , long blames washington for whats happening in murrieta. People are at a boiling point. They are tired of inefficiency at the federal level. Reporter on this fourth of july weekend, the nation that asked the world to give us their tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free finds itself in a crisis where the problem is growing but the answers are not. This morning there are no children at this facility, but the mayor says that will change. They expect waves of children to arrive here in the coming days. When that happens, protesters say they will be back. David. Miguel almaguer for us this morning. Thank you so much. Here now is the secretary of Homeland Security jeh johnson. Mr. Secretary, welcome to meet the press. Good morning, david. You heard the mayor of murrieta, why now, why so many. Is part of the answer the administration through some of its executive actions have said, in effect, if you come, were going to let you in . First of all, david, the reason were seeing this influx has to do primarily with the conditions in the three Central American countries they are leaving from, the push factor. Its doubled, though. How many could it be, 90,000 this year . Honduras is in a really bad place right now. El salvador, guatemala, the push factor is what is driving this recent influx. In addition, we know that the smuggling organizations, the criminal smuggling organizations are putting out a lot of disinformation about supposed free passes into this country. They are going to expire at the end of may, at the end of june. Just give us your money and well get you into the country by the end of the month. Its like a used car salesman saying it will expire at the end of the week. Thats not all the information. It will expire that allows some of the children to stay. Thats what we keep stressing. The Deferred Action Program is for kids who came to this country seven years ago. Its not for anyone who comes to this country today, tomorrow, yesterday. The legislation that the senate passed, which provides for an earned path to citizenship provides for those in the country in 2011, not for those coming here how many the numbers again. A year ago its 26,000. Its doubled that. Could it get up to 90,000 this year . I believe were going to stem this tide. My question is how bad could it get . How many more are we going to see . People want to know the challenge you face. I believe well stem this tide. You dont believe the numbers will go up is what youre saying. The numbers are definitely. Certainly go up from where we are. They have already doubled this year and were sitting here in the summertime. They have gone up. I believe well stem this tide. With regard to the adult population, were coming here without their kids. We have dramatically reduced turnaround time from 43 days to four days. With regard to adults who are bringing their children, bringing on additional detention capacity, were turning that population of people around quicker. And with regard to the children, very definitely there are special considerations with the children. We keep reminding people of the dangers that your leadin points out, to climbing on board top of a Freight Train. Ive spoken directly to kids on the border who told me they have held on for days and hours to the top of the Freight Train literally holding on for dear life because they risk falling off and dying. We keep reminding parents of the dangers of sending your children unaccompanied on this journey, this long 1,000 mile journey and that there are no free passes once you get here. Daca is not available for these children. Deferred action plan. Not available for these children. Its for the children who came here seven years ago. Say youre not stemming the tide fast enough. The bottom line is, what happens now . Are you prepared to deport these children, Young Mothers were seeing in miguels speech . Are you prepared to deport them . Our message to those who come here illegally, our border is not open to illegal migration, and we are taking a number of steps to address is, including turning people around faster. Weve already dramatically reduced turnaround time, deportation time for the adults. Ere asking this week for a supplemental from congress to build on bring on additional capacity and were cracking down on the smuggling organizations. Even for the children, were talking about 50,000 so far this year. Do they need to be deported, or ive seen some reporting suggesting more than half of them could end up staying with famies in america. The law requires when dhs someding canakbody as a de edle re go thowhesey the cenplaany. Ait cre thetat tha eeis adreateals al te lu t tn a thp ramatiedhetime yurj we o n an duwi heds ama nist epratio es lly peo thllyis tpr we t,init tommonrtotausatio cotyi at and i uneeype o hos womed nhatthat ofid w et itainl weoese ace thin es itectrusegon adarf bor protna wh o b roshaike vemes,e pn rs haea bof indiduta, entinri teri thehildhave e tfnhildwe nots,or s en h goe i deme ovre d af. Nedentsi es owmo ssimn gform,e on hon adil nong a t iithi . Theumgs ixron n y we ecoxample sngeystlac o thing, we need to fix the secureommunities program. This is a program where we work with local Law Enforcement to facilitate the transfer of undomeed who are in local jails. The program, ankl has gotten off to a badtart and we need to fix that program. I think the overarching goal of security communities is a good one, but it needs a fresh start. Thats one thing, among a number of them, that were contemplating doing. Another thing threat from overseas, al qaeda, isis, the growing threat in iraq, syria, isis making significant gains and Airport Security is tightened around the world. In a moment ill discuss that with you, mr. Secretary, and whether similar measures might be taking place in airports here. Let me turn to my colleague jim maceda as London Heathrow Airport with the latest on what hes seeing there. Jim. Reporter hi, david. Heathrow, of course, is one of the busiest airports, a prime terrorist target. While heathrow officials dont give any details on new precautions, passengers going on u. S. Bound flights are saying they have seen more explosive swab tests, especially on electronic devices, laptops, cell phones and the like, and on their shoes as well. Some passengers said those physical patdowns seem more frequent these last few days. Overall they are saying it seems to be taking twice as long to get through security. But you dont see any increased Armed Police Patrols in or around the buildings behind me, those terminals, which would suggest that the focus is on preset disguise bombs that current scatters might not expect. U. S. Intelligence say al qaeda bombmakers have perfected. Some explosive experts say they are taking the threat very seriously. Frighteningly say current Airport Security techniques are not yet in place to deal with it. Here is what a couple of experts told us. Its not particular difficult to disguise a bomb. To disguise it so it canning through all the tracks potentially even, for example, take a laptop. You need to switch it on for it to work. Youve got to really start changing the inside of it. Even though it goes through a scanner, looks like a laptop, works like a laptop, but actually its a bomb. After the shoe bomber, we saw peoples shoes coming off. After that liquid and gels restricted on aircraft. We always react and that is what is wrong with the system. We shouldnt base our response on deploying technology and say oh, my gosh, theres a new device that existing technologies cant identify. David, so far passengers weve talked to here are largely understanding. They say they dont mind arriving an hour or even more earlier if it makes their flight safer. David, back to you. Jim maceda in london. Jim, thank you so much. Secretary johnson, the question so Many Americans have, flights coming into the u. S. Facing tougher security screening, are we going to see that again here domestically . David, our job is to try to anticipate the next attack, not simply react to the last one. So we continually evaluate the world situation. We know that there remains a terrorist threat to the United States. Aviation security is a large part of that. So this past week, i directed that we step up our Aviation Security at some last point of departure airports coming into the United States. This is not something to overreact to or overspeculate about, but its something we felt was necessary. We do this from time to time. We ratchet it down from time to time. What about inside the country domestic flights . Do you think its time to ratchet up those screens . Those precautions . We continue to evaluate things. The screening we have domestically from one domestic airport to another is pretty robust as the american traveling public knows. In this instance we felt that it was important to crank it up some at the last point of departure airports and well continually evaluate the situation. Were adequately safeguarded be it as best we can against al qaeda or isis threat that has developed domestically. I believe weve taken appropriate measures to deal with the existing situation and not unnecessarily burden the traveling public. The Islamic State of iraq and syria has a lot of money, it has a lot of foreign fighters. What kind of access does it have to europe and the United States in terms of being able to pull off an attack . Obviously were concerned any time a terrorist organization acquires territory, picks up capability. And as i said, the terrorist threat potential out there still remains. A lot of it centers around Aviation Security, which we continually monitor. Secretary johnson, thank you very much for your time. David. Thank you very much. I want to turn back to immigration, turn to the political side. Aisle on that crisis. Im joined by congressman from idaho. Withwelcome back. Thank you for having me on your show and good morning. Youve heard from secretary jeh johnson from Homeland Security, got to do right by the children, he said. Thats got to be a bottom line ideal for the United States government. Is that how you see it . I do not. As i was listening to secretary johnsons interview, the first half of his interview, i kept thinking you need to change your slogan at the beginning of the show, instead of sunday, meet the press. If its sunday, its another Administration Official making things up on meet the press. Its really shameful. What did he make up . He made up a lot of different things. If you look at what he said, he said the number one reason these kids are coming to the United States is violence in the Central American countries. The reality is the violence in the Central American country has existed for a long time. The level of poverty has existed in the Central American countries over a long period of time. Over the last few years youve seen an increase in the number of children coming to the United States. He said hes going to be able to stem it and its not going to reach between 60 and 90,000 children. Thats not going to happen. The lemone administration estimates are that its going to be about 60,000 to 90,000 this year. Its going to increase 150 to 200,000 next year. These are their lemone estimates. Now they come on national tv and say they are doing everything they can to stem the flow but their number one priority is to actually make sure we do right by these children. The thing this Administration Needs to do is immediately deport these families, these children. I know it sounds harsh, i know it sounds difficult, but they are creating a crisis at this time thats actually going to harm these children. These children, as your lemone reporting says, these children are going to come through the border. They are going to come from Central America. Many of them are being raped, many of them are being harmed. This is an outrageous thing that is happening to these children. We need to take a strong stand against whats happening and these illegal cartels. For those hearing you are saying but you do sound harsh. That as a practical matter deporting these individuals, many of them children, to get back to Central America may not be realistic, nor is it in keeping for what it means to be america. For a lot of american countries think if they are fleeing something more awful, weve got to find a way to deal with this in a more humanitarian way. Just as we have more than a million Illegal Immigrants that have to be dealt with in a way other than just deporting them. Americans are great people. I believe they are willing to deal with 11 million people. If we feel theres going to be border security. Right now the frustration you see in murrieta, the frustration you see all throughout the United States, is because they feel this administration is doing nothing about border security. If we can feel safe in our homes, in our homeland, if we can feel we actually are going to be able to stem the flow of immigration, i think the American People are very nice people. First of all, the frustration is not just with the administration. It is congress, House Republicans that blocked reform that came over from the senate that you opposed. It is also the issue of the law that is the law of the land that was passed under the previous president that makes it a different way to treat those illegal my grants coming from Central America as opposed to mexico. They have to be brought in and detained and put through these proceedings. That is the law that congress passed. Thats a good point. In 2008, the law was passed. I think we need to change that law. We shouldnt be treating the children from Central America any different than we treat the children from mexico and canada. I think that is something i will join the administration in doing. I dont think we should be doing that. I think you need to realize that in 2008, the law was changed. In 2009 there wasnt a huge major change in the number of children that came to the United States. In 2010 there wasnt a huge change. In 2011 there wasnt a huge change either. As soon as the administration in 2012 decided to do dhaka, which is Deferred Action Program, thats when the number of children started moving up. Thats because these criminal cartels in central and south america started advertising there was a free pass. I agree with secretary johnson that these children should not be allowed to stay. Even in his statements today, he wouldnt even answer your question whether we were going to deport these children or not. The best, safest message that we can send to Central America, if you want to let Central American families they are not going to be able to shouldnt be bringing their children to the United States is by sending these children back in a humanitarian way. We can do it safely, we can do it efficiently. Congressman labrador, thank you very much for your views and being here this morning. Thank you. Coming

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