Seems to be for clinton. I dont understand how people are voting for him. Just how divided are we . Joining me are hugh hewitt. Joy reid, Chris Cillizza and Kristen Welker of nbc news. Welcome to sunday, its meet the press. From nbc news in washington, this is meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning. Every week we say it and every week its true. Theres never been a week like this in american president ial politics. Here we go again. Admittedly there were times that we had trouble keeping up with the number of women who came forward claiming donald trump had groped, propositions or sexually harassed them. As the Trump Campaign began to buckle, republicans feared that his troubles would metastasize and take out down ballot republicans threatening the partys hold on the senate and perhaps even the house. We have a new indication of just how dire things have become for trump. In our new poll out right now, Hillary Clinton leads donald trump in a fourway race by ten points among registered voters. If you limit it to likely voters, check this out, clintons lead grows to 48 37 before likely voter models would actually help trump, not in this case. But theres a Silver Lining for republicans in this poll. It may be in congress where the democratic lead has snapped back to two points. A week ago, it had opened up to seven. These numbers come after a head shaking week when trump was under constant assault and seemed to be at war with just about everyone. In the face of more accusations of Sexual Assault, trump is lashing out. Its a rigged election, because you have phony people coming up with phony allegations. Nine women have come forward. Jessica says she sat next to him on a plane in 1979. When he started putting his hand up my skirt and that was it. That was it. This woman was ass the 90s. The person on my right who unbeknowned to me was donald trump, put this hand up my skirt. A People Magazine writer was interviewing the trumps. She says, i turned around and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat. A former contestant on the apprentice. I pushed his chest, put space between us. I said, come on, man, get real. He repeated i had words back to me, get real. As he began thrusting his genitals. Reporter nbc n trump has denies them. Instead, abeing taiattacking. Some are doing it for probably a little fame. Even suggesting that they should not be believed because they were not attractive enough for him to assault. Believe me, she would not be my first choice that i can tell you. He has blamed media, the clintons. He has blamed a mexican billionaire. The Trump Campaign has pushed back on all of the allegations, offering a british man who says it w it was jessica who was being fl flirtatious. Trump released a statement on summer write being, i never met her at a hotel or greeted her inappropriately a decade ago. In fact, she continued to contact me for help, email mig office on april 14th of this year, asking that i visit her restaurant in california. All of these allegations led to a passionate speech by Michelle Obama who rarely weighed in to partisan politics this steeply. I cant stop thinking about this. It has shaken me to my core in a way that i couldnt have predicted. Im thursday, i sat down with vicepresident joe biden at a union hall in las vegas where he was campaigning in an attempt to help Hillary Clinton lock down the state of nevada. I began by asking the vicepresident about those accusations of Sexual Assault against donald trump. Why shouldnt he get the benefit of the doubt . From these accusers. His own words. I dont have to even go to the accusers. When a man says that what he said is a textbook definition of Sexual Assault. I mean, its a text book definition. The thing that is makes it so believable that he engaged in that kind of activity is not just that he said it but his sort of instinctive abuse of power. He acts in the private sector, he acts in the way he treats employees and that i i live in the penthouse. Im a billionaire. Im a star. And i can do what i want. Thats the most disturbing piece. My father used to say, the greatest abuse is abuse of power. Economic power, political power, physical power. And this is not a guy that should be representing the United States in any way. Why do you think its not been disqualifying for even more voters yet . I dont know how deeply it has sunk into the consciousness. I dont know that we think that something gets said once, twice, ten times, a thousands times over a weekend and everyone absorbs it. Most people are trying to figure out how to put bread and butter on the table. So i dont know. I think its sunk in pretty deeply. It has changed the dynamic around the country in a pretty substantial way so far. We have a culture that has given this a permission slip. This is a new level. And i was with my helping my granddaughter with a paper. Shes a bright young woman. I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed to even i have four granddaughters. I was embarrassed that this is even being discussed. A lesson for men. I heard a lot of people say as the father or the mother of two daughters or three daughters or what about the message to young men or young boys . I did this virtual town hall meeting with thousands of students. And i asked them to go to a website. What can we do to better protect them . You know what the overwhelming answer was . Get men involved. The vast majority of men dont share the view of donald trump. I was a pretty good athlete in high school and college. I dont ever remember that kind of locker room talk. Never. You might have a guy say, look at that or make comments like that. But the idea that she lets me do anything because im a celebrity is just sick. Whats wrong is, we have to change the whole culture here. And that no man has a right to touch a woman, to raise a hand to a woman, to abuse a woman for any reason. We have actually had cases i have a federal law passed. A judge asking a woman, well, you were in the bar. Were you wearing underwear, how short was your skirt . No man has a right to touch a woman. The last time this really impacted our politics was Clarence Thomas and anita hill did an interview. She expressed disappointment in you. She did. What was your reaction to that . My reaction was, i thought it was unfair. I voted against Clarence Thomas. I believed her. The question was whether or not she should be able to initially should she be able to make her complaint without identifying herself. You cant run a star chamber. You have do that. It was, very, very, very tough. Anything you do differently . No. No. As you know, donald trump is bringing up everything bill clinton right now. Should that matter . No, it shouldnt matter. I cant make an excuse for bill clintons conduct. And i wouldnt atelt tempt to. He was impeached. He expressed his deep sorrow and acknowledged what he did. This guy as i said has acknowledged that he has been a sexual predator. He has acknowledged he abused his power. As i said, the text book definition of a Sexual Assault. Lets talk about this working class white voter issue that democrats seem to have. Sort of the people that you speak to. Biden voters. He just look at pennsylvania right now, the 15 counties that make up northeast pennsylvania, you and the president won by three points. Right now she trails by eight points. Its clear there is something a lack of connectivity or something with trump. Whats your diagnosis . You were a friend of my son. He was a greated ami ed admirer. I might find myself choking up. Everybody says, hes a good father. What a decent guy. She chokes up and says something, for whatever reason, and shes playing the woman card. This is the this is the this is different. Number one. Number two, the truth is, i dont think we im a broken record on the Democratic Party on this. I dont think we speak enough to the plight of family, husband and wife making 80,0 80,000, 90 and they are struggling. They worry about this minority group, they worry about these voters over here, they worry about this state. What about me . They dont talk to me. Thats what i hear. I do, too. What happened is we had to spend so much time dragging a car out of the ditch, worrying about going over the cliff, dealing with people who didnt have enough to eat, making sure people were able to just hang on that its only now that we got the economy back and wages are starting to rise that we can begin to focus on what is a large portion of the middle class who has felt like they have been left behind and we dont talk to their needs. Lets talk about her then. Whats your advise to her . She has this deplorables line thats hard for her to shake. President obama used bitter, cling to your guns and bible. He never shook that with a certain part of the electorate. She may never shake deplorables. How should she try . By demonstrating where her heart is, what she cares about. When she cares about she cares about the people struggling. Thats been who she is. Look, as i said, i know her well. She has been so batter and beaten. We all make mistakes. She has made mistakes, too. For her to open up for example, i remember talking to her about having i had breakfast there every Tuesday Morning when she was secretary of state at my home. And i remember talking about college and paying for college and telling a story about how my dad tried to borrow money to help i had a grant and aid but get me enough money. I went to his place of business. I wanted to see him about something. I walked out, he was pacing back and forth. Im so ashamed. Im so ashamed. My word, im so ashamed. I went to the bank and they wont lend me the money. Im so ashamed. She is sitting across from me filling up because she understands that its not just the kid that doesnt get a chance, its how many middle class people have been stripped of their dignity, stripped of their the one thing you understand why they are gravitating to trump right now . To somebody that says, im going to make it better again. I do. But its not i dont think theres so much gravitating to trump. They have been stung so badly by the recession, hurt so bad. We lost 17 trillion in Household Wealth in the recession. If you lost your home and you are not back in a home and you dont benefit. When the market was if you lost your investment in the market through your 401 k , and now its 18,000, the guys who made the big money they look around and say, wait a minute. I want to go to syria here. I know you are doing a big session thats coming up next week about what to do. Why is there not a nofly zone over aleppo . Simple proposition. The first things first. We must defeat isil. We must take out raqqah. We must take out mosul. We must eliminate the caliphate. Its the direct immediate threat to the American People. Number one. Dod told us in the beginning that the assets we need to be able do that would have to be diverted. We could not do both, could not do both. Thats number one. Number two, we in order to be able to do what needs to be done, you remember, we tried to get the authority to use force before. All those republicans talked about how tough they were. I spoke to 156 members of the house and senate for a minimum of an hour. Groups of two to 25 in the situation room. No support. No support. Okay. They would say, what happens . We send planes over there. They get shot down. We have to go in and get them. Yeah, we have to go in and get them. Let me ask you this, how does syria not become the rwanda of this administration that you wonder what if, what if . R this is complicated. We have to deal with central and eastern iraq to clear isil. That will fundamentally change once mosul is taken care of you, you think the focus can be back on syria and trying to solve this . Raqqah, too. Raqqah is the Central Place where we know plotting is taking place against the homeland in those areas. Secondly, russia is in real trouble. Theyre getting themselves in a quagmire. They have economic problems. They are dragged into this. Isil gone, russia in a totally different place creates a lot of additional opportunities. Were not going to regret not doing more in aleppo . The answer is, we regret whenever anyone dies. I regret that were not doing something about mutilation in africa. I regret theres problems in afghanistan. But there has to be a sense of humility about what is able to be done at the time. What were doing is the right thing, generating a consensus among the arab countries as to what we should be doing in the region. And at the same time, going after isil to destroy it. Final question. I talked with former Russian Ambassador and we talked about the idea that you gotta respond when they are hacking. You have to do something. He described it as a high hard one, maybe just sort of in baseball, you throw a high hard one to send a message. Why havent we sent a message yet to putin . Were sending a message. We have the capacity to do it. The message he will know it . He will know it. It will be at the time of our choosing. And under the circumstances that have the greatest impact. Will it be enough that it will get him to back off . How concerns are y ed are you t country will question the result of the election . I am not concerned. The reason im not is were working closely with all the departments of elections across the country, number one. Number two, the American People are pretty damn resilient. The capacity to do to fundamentally alter the election is it is not what people think. I tell you what. To the extent they do, we will be proportional in what we do. A message is going to be sent . Will the public know it . Hope not. When we come back, the man who would like to have joe bidens job. Donald trumps running mate, Donald Trumps running mate, governor mike pence of indiana. You can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. In less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. And if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. Welcome back. One republican whose representation has not suffered is Donald Trumps running mate mike pence. In our new poll, pences total positive rating was plus eight points. Just 28 negative. That put him ahead of paul ryan, the Republican Party as a hole and donald trump. Governor pence joins me now from tampa, florida. Welcome back to the program. Good morning. Good to be with you. Let me start with getting your reaction to Michelle Obamas speech from earlier this week. Let me play a clip and get you on the other side. So while i would love nothing more than to pretend like this isnt happening and to come out here and do my normal campaign speech, it would be dishonest and disingenuous to me to just move on to the next thing like this was all just a bad dream. This is not something that we can ignore. Its not something we can just sweep under the rug as just another disturbing footnote in a sad election season. Governor, the first lady was speaking directly about Donald Trumps comments caught on the 2005 video. Do you agree with her comments that they should not be swept under the rug . Let me say that i have tremendous respect for the first lady and for her efforts on behalf of the American People over the last seven and a half years. The simple fact is that donald trump made comments in an open mike 11 years ago that he has expressed deep regret for. He is embarrassed about it. He apologized last weekend to the American People and made it clear that it was just talk. He has apologized to his family. I accept that apology. I truly do believe that this election this election is of such an ee norm unormous magnit its important we move beyond this issue. Its important that we focus on the need for a stronger america at home and abroad. As i traveled across florida this week and across the country, the people that im encountering are focused on those issues about really restoring this country and reviving our economy and thats where were going to continue to be focused. Donald trump does not want to move off of this issue. In fact, he said he has been getting advice saying that, but instead, he has been responding to every single accusation. Here is what he has said about a couple of the different accusers. Shes right. Shes a liar. Shes a liar. Shes writing a story check out her facebook page. You will understand. I was sitting with him on an airplane. And he went after me on the plane. Yeah, im going to go after believe me, she would not be my first choice. That i can tell you. Man. You dont know. That would not be my first choice. That was friday, governor pence. You just dismissed it as just talk. We have nine accusers that have come out since you have said its just talk. Do you really believe its just talk . I really do, chuck. What we have this week is a series of unsubstantiated allegations. And donald trump let me stop you there. They are not unsubstantiated. He has denied those allegations. You have firsthand accounts. They are unproven, but they are not unsubstantiated. You have a firsthand account. We have somebody that disagrees with that account. But they are substantiated. No . Well, no, these are not substantiated accounts. These are people who have brought forward allegations going back in some cases decades. And donald trump has made it clear that he categorically denies these things ever took place. I have to tell you, it really is astonishing to most americans that as these unsubstantiated allegations are treated with an enormous amount of coverage on this network and other networks, that revelations coming out of secretary of state clintons years in the state department and the Clinton Foundation are virtually ignored by the National Media. We discovered this week that state Department Officials actually directed contracts for the haitian recovery after the earthquake to fri