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WCBS 60 Minutes November 9, 2015

Only mathis, vinatieri and mcafee are still on the roster from the last time Peyton Manning was a colt. Broncos fall for the first time. Now only carolina, cincinnati, and new england are unbeaten. Peyton comes back to indy for the second time as a bron coe and he lost by six as a bronco and he lost by six as he did back in 2013. Actually, its a threepoint final with the vinatieri field goal not counting. 2724. Victory for the colts. What a game it was. All these wild turn of events. The punt return. The Third Quarter blitz by the broncos. And then the reversal by indianapolis. Phil exciting game, hard fought a lot of people played well. But again the colts, theyve got they got it done when it jim 2724 your final. Begins with 60 minutes. Youve been watching the nfl on cbs, home of super bowl 50. Phil oh no. under his breath hey man hey peter. unenthusiastic ha ha ha joanne . Is that you . You dont look a day over 70. Am i right . Jingle jingle. 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Pelley how could someone like aaron alexis be granted a u. S. Government security thats our story tonight. Stahl security is tight at the large hadron collider. You need a retina scan to get inside. Thank you. You have been identified. Power, cooling. Stahl the entire complex is buried deep underground. This is the detector right here. Stahl its believed to be the largest and most complex machine mankind has ever created. The things its searching for sound like theyre straight out of Science Fiction. Oh, no. Really . Im past patiently waitin im passionately smashin every expectation every actions an act of creation. Rose the show has already reached the loftiest heights. Rose in its first three months at the Richard Rogers theatre, hamilton has chalked up 57 million in advanced ticket sales. Those lucky enough to get in never know who might be seated next to them. The president of the United States. At our sixth preview. It put my dreams to shame. laughs kroft im steve kroft. Stahl im lesley stahl. Safer im morley safer. Whitaker im bill whitaker. Rose im charlie rose. Pelley im scott pelley. Minutes. Pelley the fugitive edward snowden, convicted spy chelsea manning, and mass murderer aaron alexis all had one thing in common u. S. Government security clearances, which they turned into weapons. Clearances to handle classified information are granted after an investigation into the applicants background. But you are about to see internal reports and interviews that reveal clearances granted after critical facts were overlooked. Some believe that snowden and manning were right to expose what they saw as government abuses, like the n. S. A. s domestic surveillance program, but few believe that all of americas secrets should be at risk to spies, criminals, or the mentally ill. That has happened because of short cuts in a system that has placed American Security into dangerous hands. Aaron alexis was profoundly psychotic when he hunted employees in a u. S. Navy office in 2013. He was armed with a shotgun and a clearance to handle military secrets. Paul stockton he was able to exploit his position of trust and gain access to a building, where he murdered his colleagues, 12 of his colleagues; others wounded. Pelley Paul Stockton is a former assistant secretary of defense who led an investigation into the massacre. What was it about his security clearance that jumped out at you right from the start . Stockton aaron alexis never should have been granted a security clearance. Pelley this is a draft the public has never seen of a separate federal investigation into the alexis case. In his security clearance application, alexis said he lived in seattle but worked in manhattan. No one asked about that. Alexis told the investigator that a felony arrest on his record was for letting air out of someones tires. He didnt mention that he let the air out with a. 45 caliber glock handgun. That detail was in a Seattle Police report that also said alexis had a blackout fueled by anger. But theres no record any investigator pursued that police report. Stockton that kind of violent behavior, that problem of impulse control, that should be a prime signal that this person is not repeat, is not appropriate to have the trust associated with a security clearance. Pelley aaron alexiss Background Investigation, like most, was done by a private company under contract with the federal office of Personnel Management, known as the o. P. M. O. P. M. Sends the results of its investigations to the various federal agencies, and those agencies decide whether to grant the security clearance. Demand is enormous. More than four million americans have security clearances, and o. P. M. Conducts 600,000 security clearance investigations a year. That comes to about 2,000 a day. Stockton after 9 11, the number of people that gained security clearances grew 9 11 and today. Pelley was o. P. M. Prepared for that . Stockton there was an enormous backlog of security clearance investigations, and congress decided that getting rid of that backlog and increasing the pace with which investigations could be conducted was very, very important. It was a top priority. Brenda persons we literally had stacks of files sitting on floors because we had no more places to put them. Pelley brenda persons, kathy treese, and linda dei were three of the people at the department of defense who granted or denied clearances based on the investigations of the office of Personnel Management. They were called adjudicators, and they have recently retired. Linda dei i consider o. P. M. To be the j. V. Of Background Investigations. Pelley not the varsity team . Dei not the varsity team. Pelley they told us that o. P. M. s investigations often had major omissions. Some even skipped the required interview with the person applying for the clearance. The office of Personnel Management says, look, if theres a problem with the file, send it back. Well work on it again. Persons wed be sending the majority of them back. Kathy treese nobody would ever get a clearance. Pelley the files were that defective . Treese yeah, they were that defective. Pelley another defective file involved Army Private Bradley manning. Did you have any reason to doubt mannings loyalty to the United States . Jhirleah showman yes. Pelley in 2009, jhirleah showman was mannings supervisor in an Intelligence Unit headed to iraq. Showman i pointed to the patch of our American Flag that was on my shoulder. I said, what does this flag mean to you . He said, it means absolutely nothing to me. I hold no allegiance to this country and the people in it. Pelley how does he get a top secret security clearance . Showman that is a good question. Pelley mannings security clearance investigation failed to check a complaint that his stepmother made with Oklahoma City police. If they had, they might have heard her 911 call. My husbands 18yearold son is out of control and just threatened me with a knife. Pelley if investigators had checked his enlistment papers, they might have seen that he wrote that he joined the military to sort out the turmoil and mess in my life. Before mannings top secret clearance was granted, he stabbed a soldier with a pencil and was ordered into counseling for fits of rage. Showman i went directly to my superior. Pelley and told them what . Showman i said that he cannot be trusted with a security clearance. We cant deploy him and hes most likely a spy. Pelley jhirleah showman told us that her superiors said they couldnt afford to lose a man with a valuable top secret clearance. In iraq, she says that she confronted manning after he repeatedly violated the rules, including sneaking a camera and recordable cds into this high Security Intelligence vault. Showman and he screamed, and came and punched me right in the face, and body slammed me at the same time. So i put him in a hold and i asked him if this is what he wants. And he said hes just tired of everybody watching his activities. Pelley this guy has done multiple things, at this point, that a soldier could be court marshaled for. Showman yes. Pelley hes a train wreck. Showman yes. Pelley and his security clearance never gets pulled. Showman correct. Pelley over eight months, manning used the cds to record hundreds of thousands of secrets in that vault and delivered them to the web site wikileaks. Showman i was sick but it didnt surprise me, because i knew it all along. Pelley manning was sentenced to 35 years in prison, where she is now known as chelsea manning, a transgender woman. In 2009, linda deis office at the pentagon relied on o. P. M. Manning to decide whether to grant security clearances. But dei began to suspect problems with the fbi name check, a search the fbi does of its criminal database at the request of o. P. M. Dei saw cases where clearances were granted before the results from the fbi were complete. Dei i was alerted to a potential problem when, all of a sudden, an investigation that o. P. M. Had closed over a year before now included classified information from the fbi name check. Pelley how important was that piece of information, that fbi report, in making an adjudication . Dei i thought it was probably the most important lead in an investigation. I mean, considering that an adjudicator is to try to determine whether subject is kinds of crimes that the fbi investigates sabotage, espionage, terrorism thats what that lead told us. Pelley linda dei wasnt the only one who was suspicious. The federal investigator looking into aaron alexiss case wrote in his report that the fbi name checks appeared curious. So, as a test, he decided to examine, at random, top secret security clearance investigations for translators who were working in iraq and afghanistan. He wrote, we reviewed the investigative files of ten. The o. P. M. s reports showed that none of the subjects had an fbi file when, in fact, there were fbi records on seven of the ten. Are there people today who have clearances and should not have them . There are. We have spies in our midst. Im convinced of it. Pelley john hamre is a former deputy secretary of defense who chairs the defense policy board that advises the pentagon. Hamre our system is very obsolete, in my view. Pelley obsolete, hamre says, because the foundation of each investigation is a questionnaire, called a standard form 86, which the applicant fills out himself. Aaron alexis got away with lying on the form about his gun related arrest. And manning lied about his mental health. Also, regulations dont allow investigators to search the applicants social media because of privacy concerns. Hamre its amazing what people will say on their facebook account that they dont say on a security clearance. Pelley edward snowden, the National Security Agency Contractor who pulled off the biggest theft of u. S. Secrets ever, had a Background Investigation no better than mannings or aaron alexiss. Hamre and when we have failures, theyre catastrophic. The failure with snowden was catastrophic. So our big elaborate, expensive system didnt prevent something that was truly important. Pelley weve obtained this internal memo that has not been public before. Its a warning to the head of the office of Personnel Management from the man who investigates the agency, o. P. M. s inspector general, patrick mcfarland. It was written in 2013. Mcfarland writes that snowdens Background Investigation was deficient in a number of areas, and o. P. M. Itself did not identify that the report had glaring deficiencies. Mcfarland concludes, there may well be systemic problems. Weve learned that snowdens behavior raised concerns when he worked at the cia. And when he left the agency, the cia put a red flag in his file in case snowden applied for another job. He did, a civilian job for the n. S. A. Where he stole the secrets. Snowden had found a simple way to beat o. P. M. s review of his security clearance. In the section about his job history, he said that his previous job was classified and he didnt give any more details. O. P. M. Did not verify his previous employment as a result of that. Hamre obviously, after the fact, its a great. It was a great mistake. Pelley what would you say is the greatest Insider Threat that these security clearances are hamre snowden was an example of it. He moved into an enormously sensitive position. We control people at the gate, and once we give them a credential, theyre in the compound. We dont Pay Attention to where they are after that. We dont organize our clearance process around the sensitivity of jobs; we organize them around peoples background. And i think thats a big failing. Pelley we know very little about the other glaring deficiencies in snowdens Background Investigation. Because the u. S. Intends to prosecute if he ever leaves russia, snowdens files are secret, available only to those with a u. S. Government security clearance. The office of Personnel Management declined an interview, but in a statement, they wrote, we are working aggressively to incorporate new data sources and to transform investigation methods, and we are reviewing key aspects of the security clearance process. In another development, this past summer, o. P. M. s computers were hacked in what is believed to have been a chinese operation. Sensitive security clearance information on 21 million americans was stolen. The head of o. P. M. Resigned in july. 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Buried hundreds of feet beneath switzerland and france, the collider smashes subatomic particles together with enormous energy. By studying the collisions, scientists have already made a major discovery, the higgs boson. Some call it the god particle. Theyre now hoping to learn a lot more, because after two years of repairs and upgrades, the collider has begun smashing particles at nearly double the power. The things its searching for now sound like theyre straight out of Science Fiction. Security is tight at the large hadron collider. You need a retina scan to get inside. Thank you. You have been identified. Stahl the entire complex is buried deep underground. Greg rakness you can see power, cooling. Stahl and this is the heart of it. Is this where the collision takes place . Rakness the protons come down this pipe, down this orange pipe. Stahl american physicist greg rakness showed us one of the four detectors where subatomic particles called protons ram into each other at nearly the speed of light to simulate conditions that are believed to have existed when the universe began. Is there a boom . Is there noise . Rakness theres no noise, but theres a flash of light and the particles fly off. And youre taking a look into the. Basically, a microscopic view of the big bang. Stahl this is what the inside of the detector looks like. Its stuffed with magnets, electronics, and sensors. The big bang isnt easy. Before the particles get here, they travel through a long tunnel that rakness took us down into during a maintenance break. For 17 miles . Rakness 17 miles. Stahl in a big loop, a big circle . Rakness in a big loop, thats right. Stahl the loop runs beneath the countryside of switzerland and france, not far from geneva. The tunnel is so vast, workers zip around on bicycles. The particles zip through these pipes, guided by supercooled magnets. When the protons are going through the tunnel, its very cold. How cold does it actually get . Rakness its somewhe

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