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WCBS Face The Nation March 27, 2016

Chairman mike mccaul. And 2016 politics big night for Bernie Sanders. We just won the state of washington. Dickerson and Republican Campaign believe it or not just gets nastier. Well talk about that with our political panel. All ahead on face the nation. Captioning sponsored by cbs good morning, happy easter. Pope francis in his easter mass this morning in st. Peters offered message of hope of tens of thousands while denouncing terrorism. It was confirmed yesterday that two americans were among the 28 victims who died in last weeks belgium bombing along with the three attackers killed. Stephanie and Justin Shults were dropping off family in brussels when the two bombs went off. Meanwhile, belgians charged three men, the investigation spread across europe showing the vast reach of the terrorist cell responsible. Latest. Track the terror cell connected to the bombings. Along the way uncovering evidence of much wider terrorist web. The series of raids as turned up clues including finners prints and d. N. A. That linked the bombers here to those who attacked paris last november. Suspects have been charged with involvement in terrorist group and attempted terrorist murder. According to belgian media one is believed to be the mysterious man in the black hat caught on tv at the airport before the suicide bombings there. Another suspect was shot in the leg at tram stop in the suburb where also week Police Uncover had they said was a bombmaking factory in an apartment. The threat is far from over. Organizers called off planned march against fear in central brussels after authorities said would stretch already overburdened forces. The attacks compare the injuries especially burns to what they expect in war zone in afghanistan. In their own twisted way, it seems the terrorist are Getting Better at what they do in every way. Dickerson thanks, allan. We sat down earlier this secretary of state john kerry who is just back from brussels. We asked him how worried he was about another terror attack in europe. Well, i think everybody is concerned. Because for several years now foreign fighters have been returning from syria or from other locations and implanting themselves in the communities. This is the threat this weve all been aware of. Weve been looking for additional screening, weve been engaged actually with belgian authorities for some period of time now trying to fill gaps that they are aware exist. I think everybody is now geared up to recognize that the fight is not just in iraq and syria but the fight is wherever. Officials admit that there and this is after the attacks in paris whats the sense of urgency . Great urgency. Theres a sense of urgency. Dickerson but can they capture that . Youre talking about 28 different countries. They have to. They really have to. I met with the president of the European Commission yesterday. The Prime Minister of belgium made it very clear they know they need to move on these things. Hopefully that will happen. It is essential to the long term fight. What is important for people to understand is that we are making Real Progress in iraq and sear california i mean Real Progress. In 2014 they began sweep across iraq that is when president obama ordered the in official bombing that stopped them from moving towards baghdad. Since then we have recouped about 40 of the territory in syria which may have captured and were taking out about one three days of isil. Were making progress. It doesnt mean theyre not a continuing threat, they are. Probably more so now threat in some of these other areas where they try to prove theyre viability. Dickerson you suggested that these latest attacks are in fact a sign that there are tomorrow create a call fed are collapsing . This is part of their plan. They put people in other places. Those tax will take place whether or not they are collapsing. Or hurting. But i think there are number of people who believe that their need to reinforce their narrative that even though theyre under pressure they are still this viable force is way to recruit. Only way for them to try to provide some added morale to people that we know are very much having morale problems in syria and iraq. Dickerson ill ask you bow russia where you were. Lets not leave europe. You suggested that americans continue with their plans but, quote, exercise vigilance. What does that mean if im scheduling a say how do i know to exercise vigilance . Its really matter of common sense. But there are guidelines and the state department is ready to help anybody to understand exactly what that means. It means avoid a crowded place where you have no control over who may be there. Have a sense of vigilance to watch who is around you, if you see a guy walking into an airport with a black glove in one hand nothing on the other and they are pushing a big suitcase, maybe that tells you something. There are things that you can be alert to. Dickerson that doesnt sound like a vacation. We live in a world today where unfort in thely we have to be vigilant. Look at what happened in san bernadino. There street realities that there are dangers around. I dont want to scare anybody. I dont think you have to be. Terrorist are far less than the odds of an injury in the course of daily life, whether its an accident in an automobile or home or elsewhere. People do not have to live in fear. But it doesnt mean should you be oblivious to your surroundings. Plenty of ways to have good vacation. I would not tell any member of my family dont travel to europe or elsewhere, but i would say, do so with an awareness of what youre choosing to do, what activity you undertake and where you are. Dickerson youve been working with the russians on a cessation of violence in syria, how long until assad is out of power which is u. S. Goal . I cant tell you that, if assad is not going to move to the side and go to the transition that iran and russia and all the other nations in the International Security group have called for and supported. If he doesnt do that, there will not be peace in sear california it is not discretionary choice that were making where we say, assad must go because we simply want him to go. Its because you cant end the war while assad is there. Dickerson where are the russians on the question of postsass regime . They believe that the Syrian People must decide in the context of this political process. Dickerson ask you about criticism with respect to russia. The argument is that putin has won in syria. That he has been able to get a foothold in the middle east because of u. S. Policy. Well, frankly, i find that ridiculous. Russia has had a foothold. Russia built the air Defense System of syria. Years ago. Well, so, have at it. We have base access in turkey, we have bases all through middle i see no threat whatsoever to the fact that russia has some Additional Foundation in syria where we dont want a base where. We are not looking for some kind of longterm presence. If russia can help stabilize and provide for a Peace Process that actually ends this war which is no, which is putting pressure on europe as well as pressure on jordan, on lebanon and creating an environment that threatens israel. Talk about threats to israel, that turmoil is a threat to israel. So if russia can help us, and it is right now, russia has helped bring about the iran nuclear agreement. Russia helped get the chemical weapons out of syria. Russia now helping with the cessation of hostilities. And if russia can help us to transition, that is all to the strategic interest of the United States of america. Dickerson finally on politics. The president was criticized for going to a baseball game in cuba after the brussels attack and the tango in argentina. What is your response to the credit things say, sticking with his schedule of discordant. My response is that to quote, you president of the United States schedule not set by terrorist. The president of the United States has major diplomatic responsibilities,s to engage with other countries. That was an important part of trying to build a relationship and achieve some of our goals. With respect to human rights, with respect to transformation in syria. And elsewhere. I think the president life doesnt stop because one terrible incident takes place in one place. He talked to the Prime Minister of belgium from cuba. He talked to the foreign minister from cuba. And an fbi team went to belgium, is working with them now, weve been in direct contact every minute. So i dont think the president lost one tick, on the contrary he continued to what he had to do to engage in diplomacy that had been predecided on. Dickerson in response to the brussels bombing from the republicans weve gotten series of things. More talk about banning muslim immigrants, surveying mull muslim immigrants and waterboarding. You deal with people overseas does that seem circus of campaigning or any way which that rhetoric has any affect overseas . Everywhere i go, every leader i meet, they ask about what is happening in america. I think it is fair to say that theyre shocked, they dont know where its taking the United States of america. It upsets peoples sense of equilibrium about our steadyings and reliability. To some degree i must say to you some of the questions the way they are posed to me clear to me whats happening is an embarrassment to our country. Dickerson secretary of state john kerry, thank you. Were joined now by new york deputy commissioner, john miller. I want to start with you, when theres an attack like this what is the Immediate Response of the nypd . The Immediate Response is to very quickly leverage our foreign posts we have a dozen detectives posted overseas, get to the people either where the attack is or in the region. They contact their partners, what we want to know is, what did the bad guys do. What was their machine, how did then immediately start to apply protection against the light target sets or other vulnerable locations in new york. The idea is, john, in the first hours of these things, you never know whether this is a europebased attack or mumbai attacks in india or the paris attacks, whether this is part of a global set of actions or whether its isolated there. So, we usually go into an Immediate Response leveraging the 1500 people in Counter Terrorism and any other assets of the nypd. Dickerson first thing milwaukee sure theres not connection something might be ongoing in new york. Then is there a period where youre learning, getting sense of what the new techniques and tactics are of these terrorists . Well, its a threepart process. First the Immediate Response. That happens automatically. Its mussel memory at this point we launched this last one at 4 00 in the morning and by rush hour we had entire city covered. That new york connection s. There a u. S. Nexus, is there a new york person involved. Is there a person involved in europe who has new york connection drill down to make sure that we dont have the thread that needs to be chased here. The third piece is, actually going thereafter the attack. Weve been to the museum in tunisia after the attack, with our great partners in the Australian Federal police in new south wales. I led a team to paris after the charlie ebb dough attacks. We study with the attack and response to see what we can bring back home to sharpen and hone our response. Whether its intelligence collection or the actual response of the incident. Dickerson one of the thing i keep reading about is how adaptable isis is. Is that something that you noticed in these investigations that youve done, have they changed their techniques once Law Enforcement catches up to them . Organization, it is a learning organization. To counter them you have to at least be learning organization. So what weve seen over the arc of time, john, is that isil operated on idea that it would inspire attacks through very clever use leveraging of social media. Then we saw a second stage where they enabled attacks. Meaning not just putting out films meant to inspire attackers, but actually making direct contact with individuals here on u. S. Soil over social media. And telling them what to attack and when and giving them advice. That is inspired then enabled. So you see inspired probably in san bernadino, you saw enabled in the cases we had here in new york in june through good intelligence we interdicted with arrest. What you are seeing in brussels and paris the thing that we have to very watchful, which is directed. That is teams under the command syria to western europe. Dickerson let me ask you commissioner bratton responded to something that ted cruz said when he suggested that we needed to patrol and secure muslim communities before they become radicalized. The commissioners response very strong against that. Why so strong . I talked to the commissioner about this quite a bit. I think patrol and secure was the subtext for occupy and intimidate. I think if you listen to what he said how he said it, were the proudest country on the planet. And thats because we have beened leader in freedom and human rights and everything else. In our history there are moments of shame be japanese internment, the red scare and mccarthyism, torture after 9 11. These are things on reflection, people have rejected. Each one of those is driven by fear. Campaigning through fear and using that as leverage then giving advice to the police to be that fear, that is not the direction american policing should be taking in democracy. That is what the commissioner was saying in today as op ed in the new york daily news. Dickerson does this present does this affect the relationship with the police and Muslim Community at all . These kinds of comments or just what happens in president ial campaign . Well, i think you have a very interesting conversation going on here. And in the great law of unintended consequences i think what ted cruz has done has caused police in america, particularly in new york, to have a voice, reassure the community as to what their role really is. 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The Counter Terrorism officials in france, went to turkey, phenomena here is foreign fighter threat, revolving door from europe to the region in iraq and syria and back through turkey, back into europe. Thats what happened in the paris attackers now we know nexus between the cells that became operational in paris and now the ones attacked in bros i will all part of the same network, same bomb maker all tied to the foreign fighter these are trained militants that have gone to the region have come back its one of the greatest threats that europe has because theyre not prepared for it from a security standpoint. Dickerson when you look at an attack like this what are you looking for in terms of your job in thinking about Homeland Security for america . Well, what im concerned about for things. One that john miller talked about thats radicalization over the internet that isis is very adept at doing. The other one is a foreign fighter threat. So, we have 40,000 foreign fighters that have converged in to iraq and syria from 120 different countries. 6,000 western passports. Thousands have come back to europe but hundreds have left the United States and gone region, many have returned. Those are the suspects that were most concerned about in the United States. Finally the idea that there are isis followers in the united being influenced by them, the thing that is the biggest challenge to federal Law Enforcement is the fact that they are communicating in darkness, what is called encryption. We cant see what theyre saying. If you cant see what theyre saying in advance its very hard to stop it. Dickerson what is your sense of those hundreds of foreign fighters in america how much of a handle does Law Enforcement have on who they are, where they are in manage right now . We have relatively good assurance, we dont know without good until generals on the ground in syria, its hard to know how many have left and returned. The numbers around 250. The ones who have returned are being monitored. I know that after the brussels attacks that we are obviously ramping up coverage on these individuals. Those are the ones most concerned about. But again, john, also the communications coming out of states to attack. Attack where you are, in dark space we cant see it. Thats a real threat. Dickerson the area that were attacked in brussels, soft targets, airports, subways, why should americans not be worried about the airports and subways in america . What is the distinction between america and europe . The threat is higher in europe because of the number of foreign fighters, this also dont share databases as well as we do. Or intelligence. They have lot of restrictions with their laws if they need to change. We are, however, i talked to the tsa administrator landed at brussels when bombing occurred. We are ramping up security at train stations, at airports, at subway systems using canines and othe

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