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And, supreme showdown, inside the war over the president S Supreme Court nominee. From abc news, its this week. Here now, chief anchor george stephanopoulos. After another wild week in the race for the white house, more big wins for donald trump. At least three states on tuesday. The most delegates by far. Moving him much closer to the republican nomination. As his campaign marches toward cleveland, he draws more protests, too. Check out this scene from arizona yesterday. The road to a trump rally blocked. And new questions overnight about how trump and his supporters are dealing with the protests. In tucson, this protester punched and kicked as he was led away. A guy grabbed the sign out of my hand. And suckerpunched me. And in this video from cnn, lewandowski appears to grab the collar of a protester. A lot to talk about this morning with donald trump. He sxwroins us now by phone. Thank you for joining us this morning, mr. Trump. We saw the incidents in tucson. What will you be doing to stop your supporters from acting out like this . Its not only tucson. We had a great rally next to phoenix. It was an amazing 21,000 people. The protesters blocked the road. You had thousands of people that couldnt get in. Sheriff joe, who did a fantastic job, immediately arrested three people. The rally totally broke up. The people that were protesting. And they left. And they went. And there was no more problem. And everybody went in, we had 21,000. There wasnt one word during this massive rally. But what about the violence . Then well, then, a little bit later on, we went to other areas. I mean, we went all over, frankly, all over arizona. And we had some people that wouldnt allow people for the rally into the door. They were making it almost impossible to get in. We had 6,000 or 7,000 people at least. 2,000 people outside. They wouldnt allow them in. These people are very disruptive people. Does that excuse punching and kicking a protester. He was wearing, or his partner was wearing a ku klux klan outfit. This was an africanamerican man, a person at the rally, who was very insensitive, the fact that somebody a protester would be wearing a ku klux klan outfit. He went wild. You appear to be excusing the kicking and punching. It was a tough thing to watch. I watch that. Why would a protester walk into a room with a ku klux klan outfit on . It looked like he was wearing an american flag. If you would have seen him just before he went up the of them was wearing a ku klux klan outfit. So you wont condemn the person that hit him . We dont condone violence. We had 21,000 people in phoenix. Nobody stood up and tried to disrupt. The disrupters. Theyre really stopping our First Amendment rights. They blocked a road. They put their cars in front of a road. We had thousands and thousands of people wanting to come. They were delayed for an hour because of the protesters. The protesters. So youre blaming the protesters, not the person who protester . No, im saying this. These are professional agitators. I think somebody should say that when a road is blocked going into the event, so that people have to wait sometimes hours to get in, i think thats very fair and there should be blame there, too. Them. I mean, the worst. You have Television Cameras all over the place and, people see these signs, i think maybe those people have some blame and should suffer blame also. We also see the video of your lewandowski lewandowski, who does appear to protester. Why is your Campaign Manager out in the crowd engaging protesters . Because security at the arena, the police were lax. They had signs up in that area that were horrendous. I cant say what they said on the sign. The ultimate word. It was all over the camera. The Television Cameras cant take it. They cant do anything about it. I will give him credit. He didnt touch. He wasnt the video shows he touched him. Your private security pulled him. I give him credit for having spirit. He wanted them to take down signs. These are disrupters. They go into a room with 20,000 people or a room with 6,000 or 7,000 people and they stand up and they start shouting things. I mean, at some point, somebody should say, i will say this. Sheriff joe arpai oh, o, in phoenix, arrested three people. As soon as they were arrested, even else immediately left. Its the job of the police to arrest protesters who are being disruptive. If that is happening. That happened in the phoenix area. It doesnt happen in tucson. You appear to be much more upset by the protesters than the violent response to the protesters. I am very i wouldnt use the word upset. I think its very unfair that these really in many cases professional and many cases sick proi testers can put cars on a road, blocking thousands of great americans from coming to a about that. But theyll Say Something about whatever. I will tell you. Kicking and punching a protester. Let me tell you. Its a very unfair double standard. Why dont you mention that people were delayed for an hour to get into an arena and the only road going there that they were delayed for an hour because people were blocking the road . And why dont you say in tucson, where the people were blocking the main entrance into the arena. We showed the blockade at the top of the broadcast. Let me move on. This comes on the heels of you saying this week there could be riots in cleveland if you entered the Republican Convention with more voting than anybody else but didnt get the nomination. Speaker paul ryan called you out. Did you go too far there . If you dont have the 1237 delegates going into cleveland, why should you be guaranteed the nomination . And i have 1200 or 1100 and somebody else is at 300, 400, 500, likely to be the case, and if im a little bit short, and one of the reasons was, we had so many candidates. I mean, we started off with 17 candidates. And, it came down to, you know, finally, its down to three, frankly. But there are so many candidates. Number. Its unfair in a way. Because of the fact that theres so many candidates, and so many candidates are grabbing delegates. Now, heres what i think. Now theyre out. Now theyre out. I think i will get over that number. I think i may get over that number fairly easily. Arizona was unbelievable yesterday. Utah, frankly, was unbelievable the day before. I think we will get over that number. Tremendous spirit about make America Great again. Thats the whole thing. Were going to make America Great again. If you dont, theres nothing unfair about having a multiballot convention, is there . I think the biggest story in of people that are coming out to vote for me, in fairness, for the Republican Party. Theyre up 75 , 72 , 102 primaries. Its the single biggest Story Worldwide in politics is, whats happening at the millions and millions of people that are going out to vote for me. Now, i will say this. The democrats are down 35 . Whereas the republicans are up over 70 . And some cases, much more than that. I say this. If youre going to disenfranchise all of those people, some of whom have never voted before, and theyre 50 and older, if youre going the disenfranchise all of those people, independents, democrats. We have a lot of people coming over. Its okay for them to riot . We do have some people that have never voted before. I dont know what i didnt say all i can say is this. I dont know whats going to happen. Youll have a lot of very i think for the republicans to disenfranchise all those people. If that happens, theyre not voting. The republicans lose. If the republicans embrace these great people showing up, the republicans are going to have a massive victory. Not going to be a mitt romney slaughter. Because he was such a bad kantd candidate. The republicans will have a massive victory in november. Will you tell your supporters not to riot if you lose the Convention Fair and square. I would certainly tell them that. You know, look, these people are fervent. Theyre really they want to see positive things happen for our country. I would certainly say that. I dont want to see riot. I dont want to see problems. You have millions of people were talking about, george. Millions of additional people have gone. Ive gotten more than 2 million votes more than anybody else. 2 million votes more than anybody else. And these are millions and thats why im leading by so i have 21 or 22 states. You have conservatives talking about the possibility of a third Party Challenge if you get the nomination. Talking about recruiting someone like senator tom coburn. Have you done anything to try to head that off . If theyre going to do that, theyre going to do that. But if they do, you might as well hand the election to Hillary Clinton, or whoever runs. If theyre going to be stupid and do that, instead of embracing these millions of people coming in to vote, theyll have to do that. Ill tell you what that will mean more than any other thing. Four or five jus sis superliberal on the Supreme Court. Our country will never, ever will be same. Over the weekend, you appeared to question the faith of mitt romney. The third time in the Campaign Something like that has happened. I want to play the statements. Right here. I cant believe, are you sure hes a mormon . Are we sure . I mean, seventh dayed a venn tis, i dont know about. I just dont know about. Ive never seen anybody that lied as much as ted cruz. And he goes around saying hes a christian. I dont know. Youre going to have to really study that. You know, after the pope spoke out about you, you said no leader should question another persons faith. So why do you keep on doing it . First of all, with mitt romney, i was saying to the mormons, theyre very smart people. I said it in a joking way. They can take it, you can take it any way you want. People. I dont think mitt romney is a smart person. I never have. The mormons are very smart people. I said, are you sure hes a mormon. Im not going to change it. I think mitt romney has proven to be not a smart person. As far as ted cruz, hes one of the greatest and biggest liars i have ever known. He lies about so much. He lies about things that dont matter. Why ted cruz has lost the evangelical vote. Look what he did with ben carson, who has endorsed me. Look what he did to ben carson. He said ben carson in iowa has left. Hes out of the campaign, vote for me. Thousands of people voted for him because he convinced people that ben carson had left the campaign. He knew ben carson didnt leave the campaign. Tomorrow, big speech. A big speech tomorrow. Speaking to the American Israel Public Affairs committee. In that speech, will you stand by your stance of being neutral to broker a peace deal . Youll hear what im going to say at the speech. Youll hear that. Well see what happens. What kind of deal would be in israels interest . I think making a deal would be in israels interest. I dont know one jewish person that doesnt want to have a good deal, a proerp deal, a very good deal. Probably one of the toughest me being a dealmaker, probable one of the toughest deals in the world to make. Theres so many decades of hatred between the two sides. Its probably one of the toughest deals to make if youre a person that prides yourself on being able to get people together. What does a good deal look like . Will israel have to give up land . I dont know any jewish people that dont want to make they would all love to see a deal made. They want a good deal. Not an obamatype deal made. Define a good deal . Ill do that moow. Ill be defining it tomorrow. Im not going to define it now. Ill define it tomorrow. Everybody would like to see a real deal made, not a deal that will be broken. Lasting. If i win, ill give that a very good shot. Mr. Trump, thank you for joining us this morning. Priebus. The chair of the rnc. You heard that interview with mr. Trump. Has he does enough to contain the violence at his rallies . Well, look, i mean, i think hes trying to make the point that, we want to talk about both sides, but clearly, both sides need to condemn violence. And violence is never the answer. And i think as far as everyone getting involved in the crowds, leave it to the professionals. The sheriff there was in the crowd. And secret service is there. Thats their job to do it. I think that is the best place to leave it. Violence is never the answer. Answer. Its not what were about. And, i think everyone agrees with that. What have you told i know you speak with the Trump Campaign and mr. Trump himself, what have you told him about this . Were seeing it again and and again. We have talked about it a little bit. Obviously, they agree that violence is not the answer. And that they dont condone it. They tell the crowds that they dont condone it. So look, um, its obviously not completely in my control what happens at these rallies. What people say and do. I would leave to it the professionals. I would continue to talk about the fact that we need to have a solutionsbased campaign. Not obviously, something that you know, creates an environment that violence is present. You say leave it to the professionals. When you say that, does it mean the Campaign Manager should stop engaging protesters . Look, i you know, i dont know all the circumstances, george. Im just sitting here this morning just like you. I havent talked to them about it. Obviously, my point would be, leave those things to the dont get involved in crowds. In those altercations. Thats why the pros are there. Lets talk about the convention. You used to call it an extreme hypothetical. Is that still the case . Uh uh probably not still the case, no. I think its possible. Were preparing for the possibility. I think its my job is to be as open and transparent as i possibly can be. Why im trying to get out there on the convention a lot, out in the media. Talk about the rules. What they are, what theyre not. Take the mystery away from what an open Convention Looks like. Its simple stuff. Lets take some of the mystery away right now. You heard mr. Trump, if he got close to the 1237, but didnt get there, hez supporters would be angry. He didnt want them to riot. The Republican Party would lose. Ir if he goes in without 1237, but with a plurality, for the convention to deny him the nomination . A plurality is a minority. And its not a majority. A minority doesnt choose the delegates. No one is disenfranchised. Theyre enfranchised by receiving bound delegates. You have to have a majority. In order to be the nominee of our party. Its its no different than when i became chairman of the party. I won on the seventh ballot, george. Hardly a landslide. But i was never behind. No one called me the winner of the second, third, fourth, fifth ballot. I had to get to a majority. Most state chairman go through the process on the floor of it seems natural to us that you would have to have a majority of your party say yes, thats the person i want to be the nominee. Can you guarantee that the nominee would be one of the three in the race right now . Well, i mean, i think it would be highly unlikely if its not. It would be unusual. But i cant 100 guarantee that. I cant imagine right now sitting here, believing it would be anyone but the three remaining candidates. What do you say to the stop Trump Movement, talking about recruiting a third party candidate, like governor rick perry or senator tom coburn. Will it doom your chances . Sure it would. Of course it would. I think its far too late. I think this is a its some thats great. But it is not likely. Its probably too late. And, there is no definitive answer right now as to who the nominee is going to be of our party. So, i think all of it is far too early. Mr. Priebus, thank you for joining us. You bet, thanks. The power houseroundtable is next. Supreme court. The beginning . That debate with dennis is mcdonough and Mitch Mcconnell. During its first year, a humpback calf and its mother are almost inseparable. She lifts her calf to its first breath of air, then protects it on the long journey to their feeding grounds. One of the most important things you can do is help the next generation. At pacific life, we offer accomplish just that. Ask a Financial Advisor about pacific life. The power to help you succeed. I guess i never really gave much thought to the acidity in any foods. Never thought about the coffee i was drinking having acids. It never dawned on me that it could hurt your teeth. 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Here now, chief anchor george stephanopoulos. After another wild week in the race for the white house, more big wins for donald trump. At least three states on tuesday. The most delegates by far. Moving him much closer to the republican nomination. As his campaign marches toward cleveland, he draws more protests, too. Check out this scene from arizona yesterday. The road to a trump rally blocked. And new questions overnight about how trump and his supporters are dealing with the protests. In tucson, this protester punched and kicked as he was led away. A guy grabbed the sign out of my hand. And suckerpunched me. And in this video from cnn, lewandowski appears to grab the collar of a protester. A lot to talk about this morning with donald trump. He sxwroins us now by phone. Thank you for joining us this morning, mr. Trump. We saw the incidents in tucson. What will you be doing to stop your supporters from acting out like this . Its not only tucson. We had a great rally next to phoenix. It was an amazing 21,000 people. The protesters blocked the road. You had thousands of people that couldnt get in. Sheriff joe, who did a fantastic job, immediately arrested three people. The rally totally broke up. The people that were protesting. And they left. And they went. And there was no more problem. And everybody went in, we had 21,000. There wasnt one word during this massive rally. But what about the violence . Then well, then, a little bit later on, we went to other areas. I mean, we went all over, frankly, all over arizona. And we had some people that wouldnt allow people for the rally into the door. They were making it almost impossible to get in. We had 6,000 or 7,000 people at least. 2,000 people outside. They wouldnt allow them in. These people are very disruptive people. Does that excuse punching and kicking a protester. He was wearing, or his partner was wearing a ku klux klan outfit. This was an africanamerican man, a person at the rally, who was very insensitive, the fact that somebody a protester would be wearing a ku klux klan outfit. He went wild. You appear to be excusing the kicking and punching. It was a tough thing to watch. I watch that. Why would a protester walk into a room with a ku klux klan outfit on . It looked like he was wearing an american flag. If you would have seen him just before he went up the of them was wearing a ku klux klan outfit. So you wont condemn the person that hit him . We dont condone violence. We had 21,000 people in phoenix. Nobody stood up and tried to disrupt. The disrupters. Theyre really stopping our First Amendment<\/a> rights. They blocked a road. They put their cars in front of a road. We had thousands and thousands of people wanting to come. They were delayed for an hour because of the protesters. The protesters. So youre blaming the protesters, not the person who protester . No, im saying this. These are professional agitators. I think somebody should say that when a road is blocked going into the event, so that people have to wait sometimes hours to get in, i think thats very fair and there should be blame there, too. Them. I mean, the worst. You have Television Cameras<\/a> all over the place and, people see these signs, i think maybe those people have some blame and should suffer blame also. We also see the video of your lewandowski lewandowski, who does appear to protester. Why is your Campaign Manager<\/a> out in the crowd engaging protesters . Because security at the arena, the police were lax. They had signs up in that area that were horrendous. I cant say what they said on the sign. The ultimate word. It was all over the camera. The Television Cameras<\/a> cant take it. They cant do anything about it. I will give him credit. He didnt touch. He wasnt the video shows he touched him. Your private security pulled him. I give him credit for having spirit. He wanted them to take down signs. These are disrupters. They go into a room with 20,000 people or a room with 6,000 or 7,000 people and they stand up and they start shouting things. I mean, at some point, somebody should say, i will say this. Sheriff joe arpai oh, o, in phoenix, arrested three people. As soon as they were arrested, even else immediately left. Its the job of the police to arrest protesters who are being disruptive. If that is happening. That happened in the phoenix area. It doesnt happen in tucson. You appear to be much more upset by the protesters than the violent response to the protesters. I am very i wouldnt use the word upset. I think its very unfair that these really in many cases professional and many cases sick proi testers can put cars on a road, blocking thousands of great americans from coming to a about that. But theyll Say Something<\/a> about whatever. I will tell you. Kicking and punching a protester. Let me tell you. Its a very unfair double standard. Why dont you mention that people were delayed for an hour to get into an arena and the only road going there that they were delayed for an hour because people were blocking the road . And why dont you say in tucson, where the people were blocking the main entrance into the arena. We showed the blockade at the top of the broadcast. Let me move on. This comes on the heels of you saying this week there could be riots in cleveland if you entered the Republican Convention<\/a> with more voting than anybody else but didnt get the nomination. Speaker paul ryan called you out. Did you go too far there . If you dont have the 1237 delegates going into cleveland, why should you be guaranteed the nomination . And i have 1200 or 1100 and somebody else is at 300, 400, 500, likely to be the case, and if im a little bit short, and one of the reasons was, we had so many candidates. I mean, we started off with 17 candidates. And, it came down to, you know, finally, its down to three, frankly. But there are so many candidates. Number. Its unfair in a way. Because of the fact that theres so many candidates, and so many candidates are grabbing delegates. Now, heres what i think. Now theyre out. Now theyre out. I think i will get over that number. I think i may get over that number fairly easily. Arizona was unbelievable yesterday. Utah, frankly, was unbelievable the day before. I think we will get over that number. Tremendous spirit about make America Great<\/a> again. Thats the whole thing. Were going to make America Great<\/a> again. If you dont, theres nothing unfair about having a multiballot convention, is there . I think the biggest story in of people that are coming out to vote for me, in fairness, for the Republican Party<\/a>. Theyre up 75 , 72 , 102 primaries. Its the single biggest Story Worldwide<\/a> in politics is, whats happening at the millions and millions of people that are going out to vote for me. Now, i will say this. The democrats are down 35 . Whereas the republicans are up over 70 . And some cases, much more than that. I say this. If youre going to disenfranchise all of those people, some of whom have never voted before, and theyre 50 and older, if youre going the disenfranchise all of those people, independents, democrats. We have a lot of people coming over. Its okay for them to riot . We do have some people that have never voted before. I dont know what i didnt say all i can say is this. I dont know whats going to happen. Youll have a lot of very i think for the republicans to disenfranchise all those people. If that happens, theyre not voting. The republicans lose. If the republicans embrace these great people showing up, the republicans are going to have a massive victory. Not going to be a mitt romney slaughter. Because he was such a bad kantd candidate. The republicans will have a massive victory in november. Will you tell your supporters not to riot if you lose the Convention Fair<\/a> and square. I would certainly tell them that. You know, look, these people are fervent. Theyre really they want to see positive things happen for our country. I would certainly say that. I dont want to see riot. I dont want to see problems. You have millions of people were talking about, george. Millions of additional people have gone. Ive gotten more than 2 million votes more than anybody else. 2 million votes more than anybody else. And these are millions and thats why im leading by so i have 21 or 22 states. You have conservatives talking about the possibility of a third Party Challenge<\/a> if you get the nomination. Talking about recruiting someone like senator tom coburn. Have you done anything to try to head that off . If theyre going to do that, theyre going to do that. But if they do, you might as well hand the election to Hillary Clinton<\/a>, or whoever runs. If theyre going to be stupid and do that, instead of embracing these millions of people coming in to vote, theyll have to do that. Ill tell you what that will mean more than any other thing. Four or five jus sis superliberal on the Supreme Court<\/a>. Our country will never, ever will be same. Over the weekend, you appeared to question the faith of mitt romney. The third time in the Campaign Something<\/a> like that has happened. I want to play the statements. Right here. I cant believe, are you sure hes a mormon . Are we sure . I mean, seventh dayed a venn tis, i dont know about. I just dont know about. Ive never seen anybody that lied as much as ted cruz. And he goes around saying hes a christian. I dont know. Youre going to have to really study that. You know, after the pope spoke out about you, you said no leader should question another persons faith. So why do you keep on doing it . First of all, with mitt romney, i was saying to the mormons, theyre very smart people. I said it in a joking way. They can take it, you can take it any way you want. People. I dont think mitt romney is a smart person. I never have. The mormons are very smart people. I said, are you sure hes a mormon. Im not going to change it. I think mitt romney has proven to be not a smart person. As far as ted cruz, hes one of the greatest and biggest liars i have ever known. He lies about so much. He lies about things that dont matter. Why ted cruz has lost the evangelical vote. Look what he did with ben carson, who has endorsed me. Look what he did to ben carson. He said ben carson in iowa has left. Hes out of the campaign, vote for me. Thousands of people voted for him because he convinced people that ben carson had left the campaign. He knew ben carson didnt leave the campaign. Tomorrow, big speech. A big speech tomorrow. Speaking to the American Israel Public Affairs<\/a> committee. In that speech, will you stand by your stance of being neutral to broker a peace deal . Youll hear what im going to say at the speech. Youll hear that. Well see what happens. What kind of deal would be in israels interest . I think making a deal would be in israels interest. I dont know one jewish person that doesnt want to have a good deal, a proerp deal, a very good deal. Probably one of the toughest me being a dealmaker, probable one of the toughest deals in the world to make. Theres so many decades of hatred between the two sides. Its probably one of the toughest deals to make if youre a person that prides yourself on being able to get people together. What does a good deal look like . Will israel have to give up land . I dont know any jewish people that dont want to make they would all love to see a deal made. They want a good deal. Not an obamatype deal made. Define a good deal . Ill do that moow. Ill be defining it tomorrow. Im not going to define it now. Ill define it tomorrow. Everybody would like to see a real deal made, not a deal that will be broken. Lasting. If i win, ill give that a very good shot. Mr. Trump, thank you for joining us this morning. Priebus. The chair of the rnc. You heard that interview with mr. Trump. Has he does enough to contain the violence at his rallies . Well, look, i mean, i think hes trying to make the point that, we want to talk about both sides, but clearly, both sides need to condemn violence. And violence is never the answer. And i think as far as everyone getting involved in the crowds, leave it to the professionals. The sheriff there was in the crowd. And secret service is there. Thats their job to do it. I think that is the best place to leave it. Violence is never the answer. Answer. Its not what were about. And, i think everyone agrees with that. What have you told i know you speak with the Trump Campaign<\/a> and mr. Trump himself, what have you told him about this . Were seeing it again and and again. We have talked about it a little bit. Obviously, they agree that violence is not the answer. And that they dont condone it. They tell the crowds that they dont condone it. So look, um, its obviously not completely in my control what happens at these rallies. What people say and do. I would leave to it the professionals. I would continue to talk about the fact that we need to have a solutionsbased campaign. Not obviously, something that you know, creates an environment that violence is present. You say leave it to the professionals. When you say that, does it mean the Campaign Manager<\/a> should stop engaging protesters . Look, i you know, i dont know all the circumstances, george. Im just sitting here this morning just like you. I havent talked to them about it. Obviously, my point would be, leave those things to the dont get involved in crowds. In those altercations. Thats why the pros are there. Lets talk about the convention. You used to call it an extreme hypothetical. Is that still the case . Uh uh probably not still the case, no. I think its possible. Were preparing for the possibility. I think its my job is to be as open and transparent as i possibly can be. Why im trying to get out there on the convention a lot, out in the media. Talk about the rules. What they are, what theyre not. Take the mystery away from what an open Convention Looks<\/a> like. Its simple stuff. Lets take some of the mystery away right now. You heard mr. Trump, if he got close to the 1237, but didnt get there, hez supporters would be angry. He didnt want them to riot. The Republican Party<\/a> would lose. Ir if he goes in without 1237, but with a plurality, for the convention to deny him the nomination . A plurality is a minority. And its not a majority. A minority doesnt choose the delegates. No one is disenfranchised. Theyre enfranchised by receiving bound delegates. You have to have a majority. In order to be the nominee of our party. Its its no different than when i became chairman of the party. I won on the seventh ballot, george. Hardly a landslide. But i was never behind. No one called me the winner of the second, third, fourth, fifth ballot. I had to get to a majority. Most state chairman go through the process on the floor of it seems natural to us that you would have to have a majority of your party say yes, thats the person i want to be the nominee. Can you guarantee that the nominee would be one of the three in the race right now . Well, i mean, i think it would be highly unlikely if its not. It would be unusual. But i cant 100 guarantee that. I cant imagine right now sitting here, believing it would be anyone but the three remaining candidates. What do you say to the stop Trump Movement<\/a>, talking about recruiting a third party candidate, like governor rick perry or senator tom coburn. Will it doom your chances . Sure it would. Of course it would. I think its far too late. I think this is a its some thats great. But it is not likely. Its probably too late. 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Just the beginning. Well be like the last japanese soldier in the jungle resisting this guy. Hes much stronger than the other candidates. But not Strong Enough<\/a> to unify the party. Every time we hear hes going to be more president ial, theres some contemptible statement or act. Trump a week or so ago saying he bills of the goon who suckerpunched the protester or playing with the idea of riots at a convention. He might get to 1237. Its quite possible. Its quite possible hell fall short. Sara fagen, it seems like from talking to mr. Trump this morning, the way hes talking about the violence, its perfectly fine for him. This seems like a no brainer. You condemn it. Condemn it strongly. Condemn both sides of it. There does appear to be an element of Trump Supporters<\/a> or other candidates to stir the pot at rallies. Hes right to point that out. He needs to emphatically condemn the violence. He should never speak of riots. But hes not going to condemn it. Its his brand not to backtrack. This shiz idea to be thug this chief. He attacked john mccain, carly im sorry, tamper down, im hurt by it. Hes done it throughout the entire campaign. We shouldnt be shocked. Its a poor short term strategy. It may work for cheers at rally. But americans want a president at the is the best and brightest of the nation. Right now, hes anything but. He didnt come pain the Campaign Manager<\/a>. You saw it, he pulls the guys collar. Its great point. How is this going to play out over the next weeks and months and in a general election . I think theres a way in which he can keep trying to turn the protests to his advantage within a certain part of the republican base. I think thats his calculation. And other politicians have done this in the past. But i think when you look at the polls about a general election, there is great reason for republicans to be petrified of a in a Washington Post<\/a> abc poll, Hillary Clinton<\/a> had a 21point lead among women voters. The republicans look at those numbers and say, we could lose everything with this guy. Lets talk more about the stop Trump Movement<\/a>. Beginning. What is the path to preventing donald trump from getting 1237 . Well, ted cruz needs to improve. If he were to win all of utahs dell gates, that would help. If he were to pull an upset and win arizona. That seems up likely. Wisconsin is the next big battleground. If ted can stop trump there, thats a big deal. The trump wins there, well see a lot of these rats in the form of republican elected officials scurrying on to the ship. As soon as it appears to be sinking in a general, theyll scurry right off. Banking on the fact that if they can win in wisconsin, that will force john kasich to drop out. All the candidates will get dell vats in wisconsin. Because of the hodgepodge of rules. Winner take all statewide. Winner take all by congressional districts. Its unlikely any candidate wins all of the delegates. However, you make a valid point. As they move to the close phase primaries, where the rules, if kasich and cruz together can Work Together<\/a> to prevent donald trump from getting to 1237. Then we get to this open convention and someone has a chance to but thats not happening. Kasich is playing a selfish and delusional role here. Theres though way a contested convention is turning to the guy thats third in the delegates. He doesnt win eight states. Crisis of conscience among conservatives is stunning. For 30 years, as an adult, i have heard republicans say, principle, morals, values, bedrock principles. To see this struggle as, what do we do to get against it. I think about a germ. Thee lodge yaen who joined to fight hitler. It will be fascinating to hear people say, i have principle, and con vings. Im voting for this guy. We saw senator coburn quoted in the New York Times<\/a>. Rick perry, saying it would be better for republicans to lose than to win with donald trump at the head of the sixty ticket. Its conscience. Everybody is talking about i think it look is more like 1912 or 1964. They preferred to see Teddy Roosevelt<\/a> fail. In 1964, what is odd here, the party has moved so far to the right in 64, what you have now is moderate conservatives or actually pretty conservative conservatives, ted cruz is no moderate, saying donald trump is too extreme for the Republican Party<\/a>. There is plins. Here. But plult. Principle at stake. Some oppose trump because of the outlandish things he says. If donald trump getting the nomination can you support him . Were not there yet. Well have to wait and see and take a coldeyed look at it. It would be a big institutional decision for us. There should be a third party candidate. Some republicans want place to park their vote in good conscience. The name of the game is stopping him from getting the nomination. Managing. Can i ask you a question . Thats why the smartest thing for ted cruz and john kasich, neither of whom have the likely path to walk into the convention with the right amount of delegates is to Work Together<\/a> to stop this guy from getting the delegates. Then they have a chance or someone else has a chance to carry the banner forward. Can you make them do that . You cant. But this is why were in the situation were in. The highest priority for republicans right now needs to be to stop donald trump. Would you rather lose than to have trump win . I we would surely not like to see the Republican Party<\/a> lose. I think the difference between ted cruz as our nominee or donald trump . The difference is ted cruz may lose a general election. But the party moves to fight a different day. 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Right now get up to 650 in credits to help you switch to there is president obama with hiS Supreme Court<\/a> pick, judge Merrick Garland<\/a> in the rose garden this week. It was an emotional announcement. Senate republicans say theres though way hell get a hearing before the election. Well hear from Senate Leader<\/a> Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> and Denis Mcdonough<\/a> after this report from terry morn. Reporter after weeks of waiting, a 63yearold white male judge and a 20year track record. The question occurs to the d. C. Circuit court of appeals. Safe to say thats not what washington was respecting. Harvard law, Corporate Law<\/a> firm. Federal prosecutor in charge of the Oklahoma City<\/a> bombing race. It wont get him anywhere. Its the next president s pick. Decide. Reporter in an interview with npr, obama shot back. Well, in fact, the American People<\/a> did decide. Back in 201, when they elected me president of the united states. Reporter and so, let the games begin. Judge garland headed to the hill this week. Here he is meeting with democrats thursday. Some swing state republicans say theyll sit down with him, too. Only a few are open to holding a vote before november. But, could there be a lame duck confirmation . What if Hillary Clinton<\/a> wins the white house . I would rather have a less liberal nominee like Merrick Garland<\/a> than a nominee that Hillary Clinton<\/a> if she were president , would put forward. Reporter a final twist. The president may have Public Opinion<\/a> on his side. Americans by 63 to 32 said the president s nominee should get a hearing. But in this Election Year<\/a> climate in washington, dont hold your breath. Terry moran, abc news, washington. Thank you, terry. Were join bid the white house chief of staff Denis Mcdonough<\/a>. The president has made his choice. Have you seep anything this week that makes you think the senate will give judge garland a hearing and a vote . Were happy to see the resounding support the for judge garland. Unbelievably strong, unquestioned excellence as a judge for the last 18 years. Somebody who has dedicated his life to the law. We have seen good progress. We have about 12 republican senators who have indicated that theyll meet with him. As you know, before he adowns nnounced him, they said they would not meet with him. Were aware that early in the week when Congress Comes<\/a> back, senator collins, a republican from maine, has agreed to meet with him in the senate. Progress, good momentum. We think its consistent with a long decades long practice and precedent of handling Supreme Court<\/a> nominations this way. So we feel good about where this is headed. Were seeing the opposition ramp up as well. Including ads by the injury durable network. This is in north dakota. The right to bear arms, the future of energy production. Religious freedom. Theyre all at stake. The Supreme Court<\/a> will preserve or end this way of life. Senator hidecamp and president obama want to take the future of the court out of your hands. Tell senator heitkamp and president obama no. They say the people should choose. Youre response . The people have chosen. They elected president obama to another fouryear term. Im not surprised to see that pouring a lot of money into this thing. And, what we dont want to see happen is have these une lektded special interests determine the fate of someone who is a patriotic man, someone who has dedicated his life to the protection of law in this country. Have them determine the outcome. If people have the questions about the judges positions and the judges remarkable experience, including prosecuting timothy mcveigh, and prosecuting the unibomber, they should have hearings. Vote in the committee. Vote in the senate. The senate does have a right not to act. If the senate fails to act president owe bama like to see judge garland confirmed in a lame duck session . Some say confirming gar lapd Hillary Clinton<\/a> the pick . The average length from nomination to confirmation is 67. Days. We have more than enough time to get that done. Between now and even the early adjournment that we understand the senate plans this year. They plan to adjourn early in july rather than traditionally in august. We think there is plenty enough time to get that done before the election. We think that the court would benefit from having its full number of justices. We think that frankly would be unprecedented for the senate to do otherwise. Theres a lot of indication it wont happen. What about a lame duck session . Would you like to see judge garland confirmed in a lame duck session if it comes to that . We would like to see him confirmed pursue want to regular order. Im sure you remember the op ed, Speaker Boehner<\/a> said now we can get Congress Working<\/a> again. In fact, one of the things the majority leader, senator mcconnell committed to, was getting the Senate Working<\/a> again. Well, getting the Senate Working<\/a> again would mean giving this person meetings. Hearing. A voting committee. And a vote on the floor. Thats the way its been done. To do otherwise would be unprecedented. We think its a mistake. It risks politicizing the Supreme Court<\/a>. Finally, i want to ask you about donald trump. You saw the violence overnight. You heard him. He appears to say the protesters should be bearing much of the blame there as well. I wonder your response to mr. Trump. And how is the president floong speak out about that over the course of this campaign . I dont have a response to mr. Trump, george. But the president gave very powerful remarks up in the house at the speakers lunch for the the Prime Minister<\/a> of island. The president ireland. He called on both sides to get back to the peaceful kind of robust debate that has marked this country and made the country the envy of the world. Thats what we should be doing. Im not seeing a lot of that from the other side at the moment. Thank you for joining us. Thanks, george. Lets bring in the republican leader of the senate, Mitch Mcconnell<\/a>. You heard Denis Mcdonough<\/a> quoting you. Any chance of a vote on judge garland this year . The senate has been very much at work in the last 15 months. The president and the chief of staff knows were very much at work. The way Supreme Court<\/a> jus sis tices have been handled in clear. Its been 80 years since a vacancy in a president ial Election Year<\/a> was filled. You have to go back to 1888. Grover cleveland was this the white house the last time a vacancy created in a president ial year on the Supreme Court<\/a> was confirmed bay senate controlled by the party different from the president. We know what the tradition is. Joe biden, 1992, chairman of the Judiciary Committee<\/a> laid down the biden rule. When the campaign is under way, confirmed. 19 in 2005, harry reid said under the constitution, this senate doesnt have an obligation to give a vote to a nominee. And chuck schumer, who will be the democratic leader next year, said 18 months before the 2008 election the Democratic Senate<\/a> would not confirm a Supreme Court<\/a> vacancy. So the tradition has been in a president ial Election Year<\/a>, that the next president , after the gets to make the decision. Well, there havent been that many examples. Youre saying clearly, no hearing, no vote for judge garland this year . Yes. The principle is, look, george. The American People<\/a> are in the middle of choosing who the next president is going to be. That next president ought to have this appointment, which will affect the Supreme Court<\/a> for probably a quarter of a century. Obama . But the last time the American People<\/a> voted was in 2014. And they elected a Republican Senate<\/a>. And under the constitution, we have shared responsibility. This is not something he does alone. He nominates. We confirm. The last time the American People<\/a> spoke in 2014, they give us nine additional net seats and we took over the u. S. Senate. One of your republican senators, mark kirk spoke out this week. He said the senate should vote. Listen. The tough thing about these senatorial jobs, you get yes or no votes. Your whole job is to either say yes or not and explain why. Are you confident youll hold republicans together . Well, look. Mark kirk is a great senator. Hes running this year in illinois. Im confident hell get reelected. The schedule in the senate is set by the majority leader. Most of my members are comfortable with letting the American People<\/a> make the decision by electing the next president who will fill this vacancy next year. You said on tuesday you told donald trump he should condemn and discourage violent acts. 24 hours later, he made the statement at riots in the convention. Are you worried hes not getting your message . Well, regardless of who the candidate is, i think all of the candidates for president all to be discouraging that kind of the audience tend to listen to those who are speaking. I think we ought to condemn this kind of violence. And encourage the American People<\/a> to engame in this political debate in a respectful way. A couple of weeks ago, the New York Times<\/a> said you have begun preparing senators for the proz ticket of a trump nomination. They could run negative ads about mr. Trump to create space between him and the republican senators seeking reelections. Well drop him like a hot rock. Is that what you said . I can quote myself pip dont know what others have said about conversations we have had. Let me make the point. We have a number of incumbent republican senators running in competitive states. Each one has done a terrific job and will be appealing to the people in their states based on their own performance. And thats what i think is the new hampshire, pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, nevada, colorado, florida, illinois. For our candidates to be able to appeal based on their own records and their own views to the voters who will be participating this fall. Is donald trump helpful or harmful to that cause . Look, were going to be running the senate races no matter who the nominee is. Were not sure who the nominee will be yet. We have great candidates. I think we have an excellent chance to hold the senate majority. Thank you for joining us. Lets get more. We have both sides staked out there. Dalia, it doesnt appear that judge garland will get a hearing. Would he be a solid fifth vote on the liberal side . What kind of role would you expect him to play . This is a pretty moderate liberal. If you look at his record, hes got a 19year record on the court of appeals. Youll find that hes very, very apt to follow precedent. Hes very apt to rule narrowly. Hes on guantanamo on one side and the other on campaign finance, for it, gets it. Always, always clearly sticking to the facts of the issues. I think more often than not, youll see him vote with the liberals. The notion that hes a hippie, wildeyed liberal is probably way off. And kerry, you said judge garland was about the best that republican hope s could hope for. They could have done worse. They could have picked eric holder. The New York Times<\/a> said he would vote to the left of justice liberals. Sis. The epa doing unconsistent tug nal power frabs would be in his camp, think. A real question he would probably be the fifth vote to abortion. Thats why planned parenthood is supporting him. That would be the case for right . Absolutely. Let me ask you. Some liberal groups disappointed by the pick of judge garland. 63 years old. Another harvard. If Hillary Clinton<\/a> is the nominee, and she wins, would garland be the first pick . I think owe what was trying to change the subject from politics to the court. I think hillary will want to do the idea is, lets talk about the Supreme Court<\/a>. This is not about tantrum issues on the left. This is putting the best possible judge on the court. The reverse question for you, then, as jeff flake said, if Hillary Clinton<\/a> is the democratic nominee and she wins, it would be better to approve judge garland than to gamble on her choice . I think he may be 10 or 0 candidate. The big principle here as senator mcconnell said is the American People<\/a> deserve a voice right now on this. They elected a Republican Senate<\/a> to put a check on this president s expansive overreach. Theyre doing it right now. After november, its anyones guess. Democrats are not going to be able to break senator mcconnell, are they . I think were seeing little cracks. This looks like a tantrum that will go on for a long time. Thank you very much. Well be right back with david muir live with the and were back what president obama sh about to make History Today<\/a> when he becomes the First American<\/a> president to come to cuba in years. What is the mood there today . What kind of reception can the president expect . I think theres going to be an extroed reception here. Cubans are, they want to hold on to their culture, their heritage. They want to embrace this economic freedoms. The president arrives about 4 00 today. A little after, with the first family. Hell go to the embassy thats now been reopened. Hell tour old havana before sitting down with us tomorrow. As you know, a little more than a year ago, i asked the president will you visit cuba before the end of your second term . He said, well, lets look, see how things evolve. The president and the white house are aware theyre going to be asked, how has it evolve snd has there been enough change when it comes to liberties here . Human rights . Hes aware of criticism back home that this embargo still exists. Does he believe he can do anything more . And will this embargo be lift snd any chance during the end of his presidency . He does not believe thats the case. He thinks it will be the next president. Here in havana, where families make about 20 a month. They are prepared. Its hard to predict how the people of cuba are ready for it. Thank you, david. Well cover the president s trip. Special coverage of the official welcome tomorrow. That interview that is all for us today. Thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. Check out world news tonight. 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