Where syed farook and after thend his wife radicalized . How could no one know about their weapons . Was this an isolated incident or a harbinger of future terror attacks . Well get to those question with the head of the justice department, loretta lynch. We begin with Pete Williams who has been covering from the start and the director of the National Counterterrorism center under both president s bush and obama. What caused the fbi to label this a terrorism incident. Theres a huge supply of weapons and bombs they have built. They built their bombs using instructions that are available from jihadist web sites including al qaedas online magazine inspire. They modified their assault rifles trying to make them into automatic weapons using instructions available on these theres her facebook posts pledging support for isis. Theres sort of trade craft things. They attempted to destroy their electronic media, smash their cell phones knowing the fbi would come back and look at that. Then he had contact with people at that the fbi has been watching. Let me follow up that. He had contact with the fbi which leads to a question the attorney general has to answer which is how much was he on the fbis radar screen . Not contact with the fbi but contact with people that the fbi was watching from time to time. People that came up on the counterterrorism radar. They dont know the nature of the contact. They have in essence phone records, social media records. They say he didnt have a lot of contacts with them and one of the things the fbi looks at in analyzing these things is whats the frequency of the contact . Same networks over and over again theyll say did we miss something but at the time no red flags were raised. Worst terrorist attack on u. S. Soil since 9 11 and no group is taking responsibility. How scare i have that . Its scary because it fits the isis play book perfectly. Isis may try to direct but what its trying to do is inspire so these are inspired attacks, small, isolated groups where they are, where they live that understand the culture and understand in part how to terrorize those communities. So what would you need Resource Wise . If you had every is there enough resources you can have, the fbi could have, that could stop syed farook and his wife from doing this . This is a multifaceted plan and you dont have enough resources. Off huge american population, a small, small, small subset that is radicalized and an even smaller subset that takes action and you cant cover everyone who has some contact with someone you need is offense oversea, defense at home with intelligence and Law Enforcement and really deep engagement with these communities. Even if they had the resources there are legal limits here. The fbi cant listen to everybody it wants to. There has to be a predicate that allows them legally to start monitoring. We just changed the bulk Data Collection of the nsa. How much would that is that, do you think, impacting this investigation . I dont think bulk Data Collection was an enormous factor because generally that deals with overseas calls to the United States. But what bulk Data Collection did was make the process more efficient so there were no silver bullets there but when you do have really tapped out resources to cover so many investigations it can help you move through and discard some faster. So in that regard it may have played not a major role but some supportive role. Michael leiter, Pete Williams, thank you both. In what may be a preview of what the president will say tonight, president obama did address the investigation and terrorism in his weekly address its entirely possible that these two attackers were radicalized to commit this act of terror and it would underscore a threat weve been focused on for years, the danger of people succumbing to violent extremist ideologies. We know isil and other terrorist groups are encouraging people around the world and in our country to commit terrible acts of violence. Often times as lone wolf actors. For the latest on the investigation, im joined by the attorney general, loretta lynch. Madam attorney general, welcome to meet the press. Good morning. We are four days since the attack. What can you tell us about the state of the investigation and what we know now . This investigation is ongoing, its wide ranging, very complex. Certainly as you know, were four days away from the horrific attacks. Immediately the fbi began working with our state and local counterparts with whom we have an excellent relationship. This is an fbi investigation now because of the indications that we do have of radicalization. This is a terrorism investigation at this point in time but we continue to work counterparts, also atf, marshalls are on the ground. Were focusing on the victims of this horrific attack. Four days, over 300 interviews. Several locations searched. A lot of information being processed, being analyzed and being gathered. And more to come. So what i would say to people is that this investigation as it has already been stated is a marathon, not a sprint, but it is one of great concern to the American People and so were committed to keeping people informed. Can you say definitively they were both radicalized. I cant say definitively right now what led either of these two people to pick up guns and become murderers. I can say that is the focus of our investigation. Were looking at everything we can find out about these two killers lives, how they grew up, where they grew up, how they met. All of those things will provide us guidance. Just from what we can read in media reports, syed farook was one type of person before he met his wife and somebody else after. Is your focus on the her when it comes to the radicalization issue . Our focus on the investigation is wide ranging and we cant limit it to one point in time. We are trying to learn everything we can about both of these individuals. What have you learned about her time in saudi arabia . Im not able to go into a lot of specific there is because we are working closely with our foreign counterparts to gather that information. It will be a long process, it will be an exhaustive process and we are trying to learn as much as we can about her life before they met, after they met, and, frankly, after she came here as well. What we are trying to focus on again is what motivated these two individuals. What led them not just to commit the act but to pick this particular place. What do you have any evidence that says that they were planning another attack and that this just happened to be what they decided to do . Obviously we have concerns wherever we see people who have large stockpiles of weapons or appear to be in the process of accumulating weapons and ammunition. At this point, we do not have of either a larger group or cell or that they were planning anything else. Thats at this time. What i will say is, again, we are continuing to run everything to ground we can about these two individuals. How cooperative has pakistan been in this investigation so far . I cant really characterize any country except to say that we work well with a number of our foreign counterparts. Is pakistan one of those countries . Pakistan is one of those countries. That you work well with . I will say we often work with our local Law Enforcement counterparts not just here but overseas, through the intel sequence community, through our military connections, through our Law Enforcement connections and were talking to a number of countries. Have you learned more about her time in social media . There was a report in the l. A. Times that perhaps she got radicalized, was interested in al nusra front and had started becoming more more fundamentalist in her believes, her own family said there was 2009 version of her and after that she became different. I think what you see with family and the information coming out from social media is a small part of what were doing, what the fbi is doing in gathering everything that we can find about her to build that larger picture. Everything that youve mentioned is part of that picture. At this point, its just too early to say. So what i would say is i would caution people not to try and define either of these two individuals right now because we dont want to foreclose either any avenues of investigation or any other issues or motivations. There have been reports that he had some contact with people that the fbi had under surveillance. What is the threshold to become under surveillance by the fbi . Clearly syed farook didnt meet that threshold. Should she . Well, i dont want to use the blanket term that individuals are under surveillance with whom he had contact with. He did have a number of contacts with individuals that had come on the fbis radar screen for a variety of reasons. So depending upon those reasons, those individuals may have been things and he was someone who had contact with them. We are running all of that to ground. We are also looking into what those connections were, if any, conversations if any. All of that is part of what were looking at. Is that making you rethink this idea that the threshold should be lowered . I think every case is different. Every situation is different. People come on the fbis radar screen for a variety of reasons and a variety of time. We run everything to ground, similar to what weve been telling people here. If you see something, say something. Report your concerns to Law Enforcement. They will be looked at. They will be reviewed. Sometimes theyre nothing. Sometimes theyre something. Sometime there iss a connection that years later may show up. All of this information is useful. Right now i would caution people not to try and define these two individuals right now. We are learning all we can about them. Both you and director comey have said see something say something. Is there a line where you worry people will be overly suspicious . It as hard to characterize i think in this particular day in age people are understandably concerned. This horrific attack has people on edge and frightened. We lost so many victims and people were wounded. People are concerned and we understand that. Our view is that if you have concerns that rise to a suspicion that someone that you either know or see on a regular basis is evidencing a change in behavior or discussion, threatening talk, threatening language. This is similar to workplace disputes as well in terms of what people can see. Alert Law Enforcement rather than taking matters into your own nds. Why do you think the mother, his mother who was, of course, who they left their sixmonthold with, apparently didnt know they had a cache of weapons, didnt know they had a pipe bomb factory in their garage. I cant speak that fact of the investigation. Obviously its something were looking at very, very closely and we appreciate everyone whos come forward with information about that. So i cant characterize the knowledge of any of the other what i will say is that this indicates the evolving nature of the threat that we are seeing. We have come from a time of the largescale planned al qaedastyle attacks to the encouragement of lone wolves. Ft. Hood, chattanooga, to encourage people to act on their own. Weve been hearing this for sick years, that the threat has changed and it looks like we have no new ways to stop this threat. I mean, do we have to just accept the idea that this is the way we have to live now . Accept the idea that a lone wolf inspired by an isis web site could just mow people down . I dont think we should ever accept the idea that someone can come along and take away our safety and freedom. We have to do everything we can to prevent that. And that is really a multifaceted approach. Weve evolved a lot since 9 11 also in terms of Law Enforcement capabilities, intelligence capabilities, military, counterterrorism. We have been watching this threat evolve for some time. Because we, in fact, have been successful at stopping a number of plots the threat has evolved. We do see these lone wolf actors. We see these encouragements for troubled individuals to pick up a gun and act out of this ideology. Again, not sure which one they picked in this case despite the media accounts but we do see this. We have to evolve as well and we are. We are reviewing everything about this case but also past cases to see what are the common threads. And when we look back at the terrorism investigation since 9 11 and there have been numerous ones one of the things that does come to the fore, czech,huck, is that in a number of cases when we look back at these individuals, somebody noticed a change. Were hearing that from family members. Everybody is saying that. How do you get people to talk about that before it happens . What we tell people is alert Law Enforcement. We are on alert 24 7 and everything that you report will be investigated. We do it covertly. This could be a problem, it could simply be your neighbor having a bad day, but better be safe than sorry. Let me ask you about the nsa program that just ended, the bulk collection. Is that a resource you wish you had today . We understand the concerns that people have with not only protecting our values but our privacy interests as well. We think the usa freedom act was a good resolution of that. You still do . Were committed to working forward you dont want new reforms . More access . Obviously if Congress Wants to talk about anything were happy to provide information. Were committed to moving forward under the current act. That act does primarily deal with overseas individuals and contacts there but every tool is important, chuck, is what i would say. Its part of a piece here. When you and director comey after paris said there was no credible threat, do those words mean anything anymore considering the world we live in . Information we have. We try and tell people what we know at the time. In terms of the indices and whats on the radar screen, we do want people to know if, in fact, we learn of an incident focused on a particular city. If we learn of longterm planning focused on a particular industry or infrastructure. So we feel we have an obligation to let people know if we have information of a credible threat or not. These two individuals, selfradicalized, radicalized by others, thats what we want to learn so we can figure out how to prevent this again. What will we learn from the president tonight . What calls to action will he have for the country or congress . The president understands the country is very concerned about this issue and i think what youll hear from him is a discussion about what government is doing to ensure our highest priority, the protection of the American People. I think hell talk about the actions weve taken not just since 9 11 but since paris to help keep the American People you may hear him call on congress to review measures and take action as well. But i think what youll hear on the president say is to call on the American People to not give into fear. Is this a time for a gun control conversation . Conversation. We always have. When we have the incidents that we have seen, were talking about this terrible San Bernardino shooting now. A week ago we were talking about planned parenthood in colorado and there are dozens and dozens of families a gun problem or a violence problem in this country . I think we have a number of issues here and dealing inging with guns is one way to handle the issue. Loretta lynch, thank you for coming in this morning. The terror attacks have reshaped the campaign and may have given another boost to donald trump. When we come back, two republican president ial candidates with two very different views on how to fight terror at home. As we go to break, its important to get to know the 14 people who died in the san here they are. [ male announcer ] some come here to build something smarter. Some come here to build something stronger. Others come to build something faster. Something safer. Something greener. Something the whole world can share. People come to boeing to do many different things. But its always about the very thing we do best. We give you relief from your cold flu. 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You know, senator rubio were doing his job and in congress more, he might know the program continues. The paris tragedy, this tragedy happened while we were still doing bulk collection. All bulk collection. Also in frances, they have a program a thousandfold more invasive collecting all of the data of all the french. Yet they still werent able to see this coming. So my question is, how much liberty do we want to give up for a false sense of security . Our program of collecting through a generalized fashion everyones phone records in the country, and theyve found that no terrorist case has been thwarted through this. What would you do if you were president tonight . President is going to address the nation. What would you say to the nation to make them feel safer . This idea of a lone wolf doesnt make me feel any safer . I think what weve had in the past is the government says, we need to collect the whole haystack, every americans privacy. What id like to do is make the haystack smaller i. Think we have to be careful who comes here from the middle east. Ive introduced legislation to say right now lets stop it. How is that not personal profiling . People who want to come to this country dont have constitutional rights. Once they get here they go. Coming here is not a constitutional right. We as of a nation have the ability and should decide who can come here. We dont know who is here right now. Being married to this terrorist, i dont think she was properly vetted. I think she came here and i dont think we adequatel