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WHYY Charlie Rose January 8, 2015

Witnesses said the shooting at the magazines offices lasted from between 5 and 10 minutes. After it was over, the two masked gunmen spotted a Police Officer on the sidewalk and opened fire. Then they executed him at pointblank range. You can hear one of them shout this is to avenge the Prophet Muhammad muhammad. On the way back to their car relaxed and confidevent, one bent to pick up a lost shoe before they sped off. Police later found the car abandoned less than a mile away. At the scene of the massacre, ambulance crews did their best for the injured and took the dead away from a neighborhood in deep shock. Journalist ashard from a neighboring office tried to help. It was a very terrific scene with with everything broken inside and many bodies inside. Reporter among those gunned down, some of the most famous names in french publishing. Rose more about the paris attack with Caroline Connan of bloombergs paris by o. Pairas has known a combination of art and the riske and it was founded by cartoonists and journalists after the magazine the word hebdo means weekly, they published a cartoon mocking the former president , charles de de gaulles death. That was effectively banned. So these journalists came together and started Charlie Hebdo. It has never been a stranger to con controversy. Rose we concluded with a conversation with ava duvernay a director of the film selma. Studying history. A leader of people, a leader of leaders, that he was one of many people, the most beautiful voice, most eloquent voice of them arguably, but he was speak speaking for people. Rose is this a film about voices . Its what i truly believe rose the paris attack and a conversation about the movie selma when we continue. Funding for rose funding for charlie rose has been provided by rose additional funding provided by and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Deadly attack in paris, twelve people died after gunmen targeted the offices of the french satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo. The victims include the he haddor and cartoonits. The identity of the three gunmen were con firms earlier today. Two are reportedly brothers, french citizen ins their 30s. The other is an 18yearold. His nationality was unknown as of this taping. The enter ministry denied earlier attacks the stackers were arrested. Charlie hebdo was known for irref rant takes on members of politics and it had received threats for several years after publishing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, they were firebomb bed. President france with a hollande called it bar bearty and declared thus a day of national mourning. President obama con determined the terrorism earlier today. Our cooperation with france is excellent. We will provide them with every bit of assistance that we can Going Forward. I think we are going to make sure we recognize these kinds of attacks can happen anywhere in the world. Rose secretary of state john kerry reiterated the universal values of Free Expression and a free press. The murderers dare to claim Charlie Hebdo is dead. Make no mistake. They are wrong. Today, tomorrow, in paris and france, across the world the freedom of expression that this magazine, no matter what your feelings were about it, the freedom of expression that it represented is not able to be killed by this kind of act of terror rose joining me is julie greenhouse. Care and Caroline Connan of beleaguer news who joins me from paris. I am pleased to have both hear this evening. Caroline, let me begin with you. Tell me what we know at this time as we tape this program at about 4 30 new york time and 10 30 parisian time. What do we know now . There has been several french media reports that the three suspects have been arrested according to the libliberation newspaper a leftwing newspaper in france. However, at the most, the French Interior Ministry Denies doesnt confirm or deny that these suspects have been arrested. According to several french media reports we have seen in the past few hours, these three suspects include two brothers, of french algerian decent. 32 and 34 years old who came back from syria over the summer. The third one who possibly was the driver in these attacks this morning in paris was possibly an 18yearold homeless in paris. So at the moment we dont have confirmation of these arrests. But these coincide with the Police Reports we had earlier in the day, that these attackers are very welltrained and may have received some military training, maybe, in syria. Rose do we know who they might have been affiliated with . Either in syria or when they were back here . Any notice about that . So no one, no group has officially claimed responsibility for these attacks but, of course it has to be linked with the anger, the International Anger that the Islamic State because one of the gunmen this morning was heard in the street as he was leaving the Charlie Hebdo headquarters, he was heard saying what means god is great, which is something obviously we have heard in previous terrorist attacks including in france, around christmas, as you may know, we have had already two terrorist attacks in france. Both men were shouting at a time as well. One of them drove into a crowd in a christmas market. We cannot say that this event is related, but for sure, they seem to be claiming the for the same code. Rose paris is on high alert tonight. What does that mean . High alert means there is 3,000 policemen around paris obviously protecting the transport system. You have airports and train stations or even churches or sites around paris being highly protected. The streets near the Charlie Hebdo headquarters i was there pretty much all day. The area around the newspaper was pretty loaded down by the police as this manhunt was still going on. And that also means that obviously, the government is going to be very careful againstround the places where you have gathers even though we had the french consul of the islamic. 5 Million People, nearly 8 of the population, in fact, france has the biggest Muslim Community in europe. So now, obviously, the challenge for the government Going Forward is going to make sure that the french people do not meet these terrorists. Rose what do you know with the facts coming in since the terrible news of what had happened and some of the video we saw, what do we know about the attack and how it took place . Place . . The attack was around 11 00 a. M. This morning. It happened during the editorial meeting of Charlie Hebdo newspaper. Two gunmen went inside the editorial meeting and started shooting people. As you know, at the moment, we have 12 dead from from the newspaper, including the editor in chief, including four very famous cartoonists such as charles willin sky, they were all killed in the attacks. So these two gunmen were masked. They were equipped with klashnikovs and they had some help from a driver. There have been some reports that they actually came in from one side of the building initially and then, actually went to the wrong address. The wrong entrances of the building. Then they went around the building to the right entrances and then they were held by a driver, was waiting outside to take them out. Rose there are reports that a policemen that had been injured was brutally assassinated as he was on the ground. Yes. There was an amateur video going around this morning, going around twitter and pretty viral. It was very terrible, horrible scene of policeman trying to prevent his gunman from escaping, from taking his car while the driver was waiting for him, and these Police Officer this policeman was shot in the face, as you can see in the video. Rose the last account now is. 12 killed, and how many injured . The last count is 12 killed including these four famous cartoonists and 20 injured, 4 in very critical condition. They have been taken to the hospital nearby which is called the hotel jure. We actually visited the hospital earlier to support the victims support the family members, the victims. And there has been some sighcologists trying to help the victims and some neighbors who may have witnessed the attacks were also taken in that hospital for psychological support. Rose emily, tell me about this group. I mean about this publication. I have read that the circulation is about 30,000. Uhhuh. Rose satirical. Stell me more. As you say a public indication with a circulation of inform 30,000, its relatively fringe publication. France has known a combination of art and the riske. It was founded in 1970 by a group of cartoonists and journalists after the magazine. The word hebdo means weekly, published a cartoon mocking the former president charles de de gaulles death. That was banned. These journalists came together and started Charlie Hebdo, and its never been a stranger to controversy. In 2006 t published 12 cartoons. The danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. That was treated with controversy and anger. In 2011, they presented an issue called sharia abdul that was guest edited by the Prophet Muhammad that had a body, sort of lewd picture of the Prophet Muhammad saying 100 lashes if you dont laugh. So after that the office of the magazine was firebombed and the website was hacked. A week later from who knows where they were producing this publication, they printed on the cover of the magazine a very telling, in this moment, cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad making out with a man a white journalist and the caption was love is stronger than hate. So the editor has really had sort of he was on the alqaeda wanted list. He is known there has been a fatawa on him to an extent. Rose he was quoted as saying early after there had been some threats in the firebombing, as i remember the quote he would rather die he would rather die standing than live on his knees. Thats right. Thats already become something of a posternd and a saying, with good reason. Rose tell me the spirit of the newspaper. I mean clearly they understood the risks they were taking. It was really i mean, the spirit is one of good fun and of high intelligence. I think it really elevated the form of the cartoon in france and in great part, it was there to deflate the overin operated from hopes to prophets, to, you know, great men or men who thought they were great. There is definitely a lascivious character. Nudity was more common. They got in trouble, the incidents in 2012 or one of the incidents that brought them to trouble was the Prophet Muhammad bending over. So there was definitely sort of sexuality and painfulness but everything was fair game for the publication and the most recent issue, of course, they were attacked at their they were going to press today. So we will have to see what that issue has in store. Will be a poignant and potent moment but in the most recent issue, there was a mock debate about jesus. Its not justicelam. From the new york today, amy davidson, quote, this is a dangerous moment for france both in the frightening lyn immediate sense, there are armed terrorists loose in the capitol and because the decisions that a nation makes at a time of terror are not always the best ones for anybody. Caroline lets talk more about the attitude and the feeling in france and what might change because of this attack. So of course the message today from all of the french people and from president hollandes address to the nation tonight was that franks needs to show unity in the face of this attack that france will win this battle against terrorism. It was pretty impressive when you looked at the gatherings, the continuous gatherings we have seen in france tonight in paris but not only in paris. Also in other cities like bardo. Everywhere, you had thousands of french people protecting marching in silence in order to support the freedom of speech and to show, pay a tribute, of course to the victims. Just in paris around the republic square, you had more than 10,000 people gathering. They were chanting, charlie, charlie. Some of them had candles. Some of them had obviously signs with different cartoons from the different cartoonists who died in the attack. It was very showing moments on the republic square when thousands of people pointed their pens and their press cards toward the sky in order to show that they were supporting the freedom and that the message from these newspapers will continue and the cartoonist message will continue to be defended in france. Rose from the people who survived this attack they are saying that Charlie Hebdo will continue . Yes, there has been some support from other journalists saying some might voluntarily help the Charlie Hebdo journalists who survived the attack, to publish the next issue of Charlie Hebdo in order to show support for this magazine, this weekly magazine because at a time would be the result would be Charlie Hebdo didnt have an issue. There has been some support on twitter feeds journalists have gathered in this square in paris saying that they will help Charlie Hebdo to continue to be published. Rose whats scheduled for tomorrow . For tomorrow, there is going to be an emergency new e emergency Cabinet Meeting at 8 30 a. M. And its going to be a national day of mourning in france. So the flag has already been taken down, half mast on most Public Places in phrase. At theplace de la bastille. All of the public monuments. The flags are at half mast. There will also be of course some support from the different newspapers around the country. Many newspapers have planned to have their front page completely black and of course will have to also follow this twitter feed which is going viral. I am charlie which there has been more than half a million tweets already just in the past 12 hours and so the attack this morning, weve a tribute to the people who died. Rose we talk a lot in this country about leading up to those people who have gone to fight in syria, got in training and coming back because they have a passport from france or the United States . Right. Rose or germany or other places. Tell me about france and this and what the fear is and how the french plan to as much as you can know, combat it. France has the largest Muslim Population in europe as well as the largests Jewish Population in europe. I bring that up. It can very often feel and in my experience feels like a small micro cosm of the israeli pal Israeli Palestinian tensions. Many children and grandchildren who have come to france who, you know, were born in france and are nationally french citizens feel disenfranchised, feel they cannot get jobs and its difficult after such a heinous event today to draw certain parallels and not trying to do that, but there is a real sense of alienation among this group in particular. I think, you know the rector in paris today, the mosque naturally said particularly horrible for our community. There have been, i believe, approximately 1,000 french citizens who have gone to iraq and syria to join the jihad and the Islamic State and thats very scary. There were the attacks of the Jewish School in. Is it ouloose. These are french citizens. Its not an ternlings threat at this point. Caroline, as one other point, there is a novel, i think that has been written, which has received some controversy in paris. Can you tell me more about that . Yes. Of course. This week in the Charlie Hebdo, the cover is about this michelle book called submission coming out this week in france. And thats already sparked a lot of controversy in france because its a fiction of course, but its depicting france taking place in 2022. So the not the next president ial election in france but the one after that. Its saying its imagining in that 2022 french president ial elections in the second run, you will have the National Running against a candidate called ben abass in the fiction from the muslim fraternity. In the book, the socialist party and the Rightwing Party in france are actually supporting the muslim candidate who wins the election. Of course this book has very controversial here it has been in the french media over the past two days everywhere. So trying to defend this book submission which, of course, is also a symbol of the freedom of expression, but there ishas also been some criticism it might have fuelled antiislam antimuslim movement in france that already is pretty high obviously. Rose your reaction to that book . I havent read the book yet, but i think similarly, the issue, the issue on the Charlie Hebdo shows its a character can a caricature. There is great sensitivity of islam in france because this is the country at hand and its being perceived as blas femous. Rose thank you emily. Thank you caroline. Thank you. Rose back in a moment. Stay with us. Ava drivers license duvernay is here the film with particular relevance remind us race remains one of the countrys biggest issues. The associated presses calls selma a History Lesson that throbs with today. Here is the trailer for today. Weve got detroit. Los angeles and largescale arrests and sympathy marches. I am very aware of that, mr. Hoover. 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