Good morning, im martha raddatz, hope you had a great thanksgiving. Well get to the 2016 race shortly, including ben carsons standing by in jordan, revealing what hes learned on that surprise trip to the refugee camps there. But we start off in colorado, brandnew details on the investigation into that deadly shootout at planned parenthood. Revelations the shooter may have been targeting the group. Our exclusive interview with a top planned parenthood official momentarily. First, abcs Clayton Sandell on the ground with the latest. Good morning, clayton. Reporter good morning, martha. Investators here are trying to piece together the facts here this morning, but also trying to get inside the mind of an alleged killer. This morning, Law Enforcement sources arent officially saying why robert dear allegedly launched a fivehour attack. Attention, all units cspd is working. Reporter after his surrender and arrest in Colorado Springs, he allegedly made rambling, hostile statements about his target, planned parenthood. Were pinned down. Were getting active gunfire. Reporter on saturday, police and federal agents showed up at his home, where neighbors said dear kept to himself but always seemed a little off. We got some antiobama pamphlets within three minutes of meeting somebody. Reporter u. S. Attorney general Loretta Lynch calls the shooting a crime against women receiving health care at planned parenthood. The organization itself said the gunman was motivated by opposition to safe and legal abortion. It happened at a planned parenthood center. Reporter what does that tell you . My suspicions are, that has a lot to do with the motive. Reporter but knowing the motive wont bring back the three victims. One a police officer, garrett swasey, a married father of two, once a champion junior ice skater. He wanted to be in the olympics and he wanted to make a mark. Reporter the other two victims killed havent been officially identified. Nine others were wounded, expected to be okay. Others just feeling lucky. I saw myself in the mirror and its like, my god, he was aiming for my head. Reporter now, Law Enforcement sources tell the Justice Department consider this a case of domestic terrorism. State murder charges will take first priority. Dear is talking to investigators, sometimes rambling, other times sounding perfectly rational. They may never understand his motive or mental state. Hell be in court monday. Martha. Thanks, clayton. Joining us now the mayor of Colorado Springs, john suthers, mr. Mayor, what more can you tell us about the motivation in this killing . Well, martha, the police and the prosecutor havent officially released anything about the motivation. As a former district attorney, im very respectful of that and ill await, you know, the release of official information before well comment on the motivation. But do you believe planned parenthood was targeted . It certainly appears that way. Im sure that, as the case proceeds, the criminal case proceeds, well learn a lot more about the motivation. Do you know anything more about the statements that he allegedly made about planned parenthood or about abortion . I know what you know, somebody unauthorized made some statements to the press, but im not going to contribute to that, martha. Im going to let the police and the prosecutors do their job. What more can you tell us this morning about how this happened . The gunman killed one of your officers, and yet you still managed to take the suspect alive . Yeah, it was kind of an unusual situation in the fact that he gave himself up alive. Martha, i was in the command center watching this unfold and the police just did a fantastic job, from the command center, they were able to monitor security cameras in the center and advise the s. W. A. T. Officers inside about the movement of the perpetrator. And that sort of coordination, they were emailing diagrams about the building inside to the s. W. A. T. Team and that coordination im absolutely certain saved a number of lives because they were able to get people out of the building that were in areas that the perpetrator was not. Incredible work by your officers. We also heard that the gunman left some unspecified items outside. Possibly, explosives or bags. Have you cleared the scene there now . There were some things in his truck, im not sure they have been identified as having, you know, being related. Were just going to have the crime scene is still being processed. Were going to have to wait and see what the police and prosecutor tell us about this. Would you say this is an act of domestic terrorism . It certainly appears that way. We have, martha, something that occurs quite a bit. We have a person thats pretty much off the grid and acting for whatever motivations very hard to ferret out these folks. You know, i was an attorney general that was a head of a committee looking at things that are consistent about these kind of incidents. And one of the things that we dont do very well is identify these people sometimes with Mental Health problems and prevent their access to weapons. And i, you know, well wait and see here, but by all indications here that this guy was off the grid. Okay, thank you very much. Mayor suthers. Now lets turn to the president and ceo of planned parenthood of rocky mountain. Vick gee cowart joins us in an abc news exclouews exclusive. Do you believe the facility was targeted because it is a planned parenthood facility . Good morning. Like the mayor, i have the same kinds of information thats been reported that the individual that did this crime had ramblings about abortion, but we didnt have any advanced notice, but it does appear that it was targeted at us from what we have heard. And walk us through what happened with your staff, we heard about this incredible coordination on security, but where your staff was, what you know about what happened inside. Thank you for asking that question. Because our focus really h been around our staff, planned parenthood holds the safety and the wellbeing of our patients and our staff at the very top of our list. Its our most important thing. Im so pleased that all of our staff got out of the building safe, uninjured. What happened was, they evidently heard a shot and they were able to move right into their training and i want to give a huge shoutout to the people who were in that health center, because they responded perfectly according to their training. They got away from the front of the building. They got into the back, locked portions of the building. They called 911 immediately. They moved into locked office spaces. Not one big space. But Different Office spaces around the building. And they hunkered down. They quieted their cellphones. They didnt talk and they waited for the officials to rescue them, and we are so, so thankful for the First Responders and the Law Enforcement in Colorado Springs and heartbroken at the loss of an officer who was one of the First Responders. It is truly a tragedy. I want to move back to this idea of domestic terrorism, again, youre being cautious about what the suspect may or may not have said, but you have said in a statement, that extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism. We have experienced so much hateful language, hateful speech, such a negative environment has been created around the work that planned parenthood does, around the idea of safe and legal abortion and we have seen that across the country from all sort of speakers in the last few months. I cant believe that this isnt contributing to some folks mentally unwell or not, thinking that its okay to target planned parenthood or to target abortion providers. Are you talking about members of congress . Are you talking about politicians . I think politicians have been in that conversation, and i mean, you know that the air waves are full of antiabortion language of antiplanned parenthood accusations. Much of which is false in nature and we at planned parenthood are first and foremost a health care provider, we provide lifesaving services to all kinds of folks, men and women across our communities, and the tirades against planned parenthood in the last few months have really been over the top. Thanks very much for joining us, vicki cowart, this morning. Turning now to 2016 and ben carson heading overseas to jordan, meeting face to face with Syrian Refugees after coming under fire for his lack of Foreign Policy experience. Ben carson joins us shortly. First, the latest from abcs tom llamas. Were just getting a good impression of whats going on. Reporter ben carsons campaign releasing these images from his surprise trip to jordan. This clinic seems to be very nice. Reporter carson visiting refugee camps where syrians have fled civil war. But bringing refugees to the United States does nothing to solve this crisis. Jordan already houses 1. 4 million refugees. Jordan needs and deserves our help. The overseas trip comes as carson has taken new heat about his Foreign Policy comments. Like wrongly inserting that china was involved in the syrian civil war. And comparing the screening of refugees to protecting children from rabid dogs. You know, if theres a rabid dog running around your neighborhood you probably are not going to assume something good about that dog. Reporter and National Security issues critical to 2016 candidates. Our latest poll of republicans shows terrorism now topping the economy as the most important issue for voters. For carson, only 6 of republicans in the crucial state of iowa believe hes best to handle Foreign Policy. Ted cruz takes the lead at 24 . Hes come out against sending u. S. Ground troops to syria. You asked about boots on the ground, the kurds are our boots on the ground. Reporter meanwhile, donald trump wants more airpower in the fight against isis. I would bomb the [ bleep ] out of isis. Reporter trump is open to the idea of sending ground troops. Others have been more definitive in their support. For this week, tom llamas, abc news, new york. And ben carson joins us now from jordan. Good morning, dr. Carson. Well get to your trip in a moment. But first, your reaction to what happened in Colorado Springs. Well, obviously, any hate crime is a horrible thing. No matter from where it comes and should be condemned very strongly. Dr. Carson, the planned parenthood Rocky Mountains vicki cowart said extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in this country. Do you agree with that . Unfortunately, theres a lot of extremism coming from all of the areas. One of the biggest areas i think thats threatening to tear our country apart. We get into our separate corners and we hate each other, we want to destroy those who we disagree. That comes from both sides. Theres no saint here in this equation. But what we have to start asking ourselves is, what can we do as a nation to rectify this situation . How can we begin to engage in rational discussion . All you have to do is go to an article on the internet and go to the comments section, you dont get five comments down before people start calling each other names and abouting like idiots. What happened to us . What happened to the civility that used to characterize our society . And youre in jordan right now and have had quite the trip to visit refugees, what have you learned about refugees that you didnt know before . Well, i was very pleasantly surprised to see how welcoming they are. I had an opportunity to talk to many of the Syrian Refugees and ask them, what is your supreme desire . And it was pretty uniform. They want to go back home, obviously, and i said, what kind of things could a nation like the United States do that would be helpful to you . And again, i was a little bit surprised with the answer. Because it wasnt what were hearing a lot. Were hearing that they all want to come here to the United States. Thats not what they want. They want to go back home. They said thge United States and other nations could be much more supportive of the efforts manifested by the jordanians in taking in people, at a lot of expense to themselves. They cant continue that without the help of the international community. You know, you look at last month, we spent 3 billion on halloween candy, thats the amount of money thats needed to bridge the shortfall for a year that theyre having in jordan with the refugees. Dr. Carson, we spend more than 4 billion in humanitarian aid, to jordan for the refugees, so what more could they possibly be doing . Well, you know, you have to go there and see for yourself. But you can see there are a lot of individual modules that they have created for their families, theyre in the process of trying to get electricity to all of them, getting pluming to all of them, and they have taken in millions of people. For us to bring 10,000 or 25,000 people over here, that doesnt solve the problem. I mean, we need to look at Real Solutions for the problem and not things that make us feel dr. Carson, i have been to the refugee camps and found the same thing, they want to go either back to syria, which doesnt look possible at this point, or they want to go somewhere else. They want jobs. Do you welcome them into america now, has anything changed your mind . Well, when you say, you know, they want to escape the refugee camps, the main reason that any of them want to escape the refugee camps is because theres not adequate support there for them. If there were adequate support, it would be a completely different story and we can provide that adequate support the people i talked to, they dont want to stay there. They dont want to stay there permanently, they want to be repatriated into their own country. Is that going to be easier from a neighboring country or from the United States . Dr. Carson, by taking this trip in the middle of the campaign, are you acknowledging that you werent quite prepared to be commander in chief . Im acknowledging that i like to know what im talking about. Its the same situation when i went this summer down to the border of mexico. And, you know, i knew that there were problems there, but to be actually able to talk to the farmers who are being harassed and to the sheriffs and sheriffs deputies who are frustrated after risking their lives and then been told by i. C. E. You must release these people. Seeing a fence with holes cut in it that people can easily go through, and thats barrier. Its good to see things for yourself so you can begin to formulate the right kind of policies with the right information. So, what are the right kind of policies for those Syrian Refugees, should america be taking some of those refugees . I believe that the right policy is to support the Refugee Program that is in place, that works extremely well but does not have aid adequate funding. If you do that, you solve that problem without exposing the American People to a population that could be infiltrated with terrorists who want to destroy us. If you can eliminate the possibility of terrorists infiltrating them and wanting to destroy us you would have a different argument. But i dont see that being eliminated. Do you think there were terrorists among those refugees who you talked to . I dont know whether there were or not. But i do know that the isis terrorists have said that if we bring refugees that they would infiltrate them and why wouldnt they . And i want to ask you quickly about isis. I was in iraq last week. I was in the air combat command center. Would you like to see the rules of engagement loosen . One of the things they told me, they aim for zero civilian casualties. And sole purpose isis structure. Should that change . What i would really like to see is an administration that really seriously sits down with our experts in that region and would ask them, what is needed in order to accomplish our goal of eliminating this group of terrorists . Thats what i would really like to see. So, you dont know whether or not you would rules of engagement those of us who are not experts in that area can sit around all day long talking about, oh, we should do this and we should do that. Why dont we listen to the people who are the experts in that area, find out what it is they need. And our decision should be, do we really want to give them what they need . Or continue playing around like we are. Okay, thanks very much, dr. Carson. Much more ahead on 2016 including the candidate whose new video seems to be comparing donald trump to hitler. Plus, high alert with president obama heading to that summit in paris and new revelations of an nfl legend that could change the future of the game. 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