His push to get on the stage for the president ial debate. A Fox News Sunday exclusive. Well ask our panel whether trumps position deporting Illegal Immigrants will gain or cost him support. And our power player of the week. After dominating in rio, whats next for Katie Ledecky . I havent been in the pool, and im starting to itch to get back in. All right now on Fox News Sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. Trail as donald trump and Hillary Clinton accused each other of racism. Meanwhile, trump is under fire for a possible shift on immigration, and clinton faces new allegations about her private emails and the Clinton Foundation. We still have 72 days till the election. Joining me is trumps new campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway. Lets start with hillary private server or from other accounts and handed over to the state department. The scandal over her private server, and the Clinton Foundation has been going on for a year now, more than a year. What makes you think that there is a game changer in this new batch . Chris, first, thanks for having me. Giving the campaign a platform this morning. Hillary clinton achieved something this week that even i am impressed with. She made her trust problem even worse this week shows 66 of americans say she is dishonest. 29 think shes honest. Those numbers have gotten worse since she announced her campaign over a year ago. And shes earned that dishonesty and untrustworthiness because of the evergrowing scandal incident that you laid out that even though she said she had turned over all the emails to the fbi as part of their investigation, it turns out she has not. Month about her being reckless and careless about thanks she had said turning out not to be true, the number of devices, the classified information, we see that theres still more happening. And what is really amazing to me as put forth by abc news last night in a report, laid out by the Associated Press this week, chris, these arent these are not right wing websites. Theyre showing resolving do and americans have the right to be concerned. This is our state department, our public entity. We dont want a Straight Line between the clinton bank account, the state department, the Clinton Foundation, and it doesnt it Shows Americans how she may do business if she were elected in the white house. All right. Youve got your own issues with the trump campaign. This week began with donald trump appearing to back away from his pledge during the primaries that he was going to deport all 11 million illegals who were in this country. Seemed to be backing away from backing away. Here he is. There certainly can be a softening because were not look could to hurt people. We have some great people in this country. I dont think its a softening. But 11 Million People are no longer going to be departed. Ive had people say its hardening. There is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back. Kellyanne, please clear this up for me. Is donald trump saying that if someone has come into this country illegally, so the law, but theyve broken no laws since then, been in the country for ten years, 20 years, without breaking any other laws, is he still going deport them, or is he going to let them stay . What hes said is very consistent. Number one and this is important the signature piece of his legislation has, and his campaign, has always been build the wall. That has not changed. Build the wall. No amnesty. No citizenship. No more sanctuary city. The face of our campaign are people like michelle and julie moms who stood with donald trump in different forms just this week, chris, talking about their grievous losses, the loss of their children, all of whom were murdered by immigrants who should not have been there. Thats also part of Donald Trumps plan. If i may theyre out of here if i may respectfully, he said in the campaign and said it on the debate stage i was one of the moderators im going to sets up a deportation to set up a deportation force, and all 11 Million People who come here illegally have to go. Do they, or dont they . And what hes said now is that he will look at that. He wants to look the softening is more approach than policy, chris. In the clip that you played, you heard the words that followed it. That we need a fair and humane way of addressing the fact that 11 million or we dont know the number 11 million Illegal Immigrants live among us. He wants to find a fair and humane way. If you enforce the law and deal to enforce the law, then well see what weve got. Nobody bothers to enforce the law. Washington always layers new laws on top of laws that dont work or unenforced to pretend to the American People that theyre being active on an issue. Its important to look at the five, six, seven main tenets i understand and you made them clear. I want to be clear. What you seem to be saying is youre leaving the door open that President Trump would consider giving people who have not committed more crimes to living in this country legally. What he has said is no legalization and no amnesty. He also said this week, chris, that if you go back to your home country and if youd like it come back to the United States as an immigrant, you need apply through the many channels that allow people to apply for citizenship or entry into the United States legally. And so thats important. We all learned in kindergarten to stand in line, to wait our now the deportation force, i would like to address that. He hasnt mentioned that since last november. I think in a few of the debates as you point out, in his Convention Speech last month, hes consistent on that now in terms of addressing these many different areas of a complex issue. But i would really implore the viewers, chris, and others to look at the contrast between donald trump and Hillary Clinton on immigration. There are very few issues where theyre more different. In fa left of barack obama on immigration. She has been critical of president obama deporting whats close to two million or more in some estimates, immigrants, in this country. She says she will use executive amnesty, protection release. Shes for the sanctuary cities that harbor Illegal Immigrants. In the case of kate steinly, the man who murder her in front of her father over a year ago, he had been deported five times. Why is he here . Everybody needs to be everything needs to be examined give donald trump credit for at least trying to address a complex issue and not pretending like Hillary Clinton does that we dont have these problems. All right. Lets move on to another one. Donald trump has also been reaching out to africanamericans this week, asking what do you have to lose after decades of democratic neglect. Here he is. Poverty, rejection, horrible education, no housing, no homes, no ownership, crime at that nobodys seen. Kellyanne, that totally misrepresents what blacks face in this country. Trump says black youth unemployment is 58 . Its actually 19 . 26 of blacks live in poverty. Thats not good. But the vast majority do not. How can trump address the problem when he doesnt seem to understand what it really is . So as i understand it, chris, africanamerican youth who are not working. But youre right. Were also taking our message to africanamericans who are concerned about other things like lending, like housing, like discrimination. They may be unsafe. They may live in safe neighborhoods with fine schools, but it certainly isnt what their children deserve. They deserve the same highquality education as other children. And thats his point. And we just i sat with him and africanamericans on wednesday, i believe, or tuesday. And we had a round table. It was a very productive conversation where he did most of the listening. And they laid out their concerns, they laid out their achievement. Yes . Well, i dont mean to interrupt, but we are running out of time. I want to pick up on exactly that. Trump has been running for president , though, kellyanne, since june of 2015. Thats 14 months. Question how many time has he gone in to an american inner largely black audience . I dont know the answer let me say, would you be surprised if the answer is none . Never . No, i would not be surprised. I will tell you, chris, and i pledge to you and everybody whos watching that those events are actually being planned. And were very excited about them. And, look, john mccain and mitt romney are fine theyre wonderful human beings, great americans. They were fine president ial nominees. John mccain got 4 of the africanamerican vote, and mitt romney improved that to a were fighting for every single vote. Were going to leave it all on the field. That includes going where the voters are and taking the case directly to you say that the churches you say that, the fact is, in 14 month, hes never once been in an inner city and held an event for black americans. And this a tweet that mr. Trump sent yesterday, im sure youre familiar with it, its gotten a lot of attention after the tragic shooting of the cousin of trump tweeted, just what ive been saying africanamericans will vote trump. Do you think its right to have that kind of a political response to a personal tragedy . I was pleased that his next tweet expressed his condolences to the wade family about the death of his cousin. That horrifying example of a woman who had just signed up her children for school, pushing a baby stroller, that is a nonpartisan issue at sicken us all. And i also would express my condolences the entire family. Im pleased that he d. Chris, im new to this post, and hes going to take his case right to people where they live. That includes everyone. Were vying for every vote. Every ethnicity, both vendors, every age group both genders, every age group. Look what Hillary Clinton did this week. My goodness, she missed another opportunity to deliver a speech it obamacare, energy, or infrastructure, the economy or isis. Insults into an art form. Let me ask you let me he is talking policy. Let me ask you about that. Hillary clinton in the speech youre talking it said that donald trump is taking hate groups mainstream. Here she is racists call themselves racialists. White supremacists now call themselves White Nationalists. The paranoid fringe now calls itself altright. The hate burns just as you say that shes making personal insults. I mean, she does have a point. The new ceo of the campaign, i guess hes your boss, is steve bannon, the head of bright breitbart news. Hes written, Birth Control makes women unattractive and crazy. And would you rather your child had feminism or cancer . Called bannon has called breitbart the platform for the altright question. This is the man that trump chose to run his campaign . He chose me to manage his campaign, and i report directly to him. I will say this the idea that Hillary Clinton whos been in public life for 30 years gives a speech this week, chris, about it was totally contentfree, policyfree address about consultants is just r to me. I understand hillarys campaign is a hot mess. Revelation after revelation, the Clinton Foundation, state department, brandnew reports overnight thats reflected in the polls. Theres a new poll this morning showing that we cut her lead nationally from six points to three points in just a matter of two weeks . Why . Because people are uncomfortable voting for someone that they think is corrupt. I know shes trying to divert attention away from her campaign scandals, Clinton Foundation, donations in the tens of millions of dollars by talking it consultants. The fact is that the hot mess that has become the hillary candidacy cannot escape the fact that a majority of americans think she is corrupt and rigged, and theyre not going to want that in their next president. Finally, ive got about 30 seconds left. There is is a report that donald trump is going to be holding a debate prep session today at his golf course in new jersey. One, is that true . Secondly, how is he preparing for are you having mock sessions . Is it true that Laura Ingraham is going to play Hillary Clinton . Is he cramming thick briefing books . Ill be at lunch, and im sure well have a lively conversation. Look, hes an unconventional candidate, and hes not going to prepare the way hillary does which is, you know, locking her in a room and cramming her head with binders and get the hollywood types that she raised billions of dollars with in of standing with sanctuary city moms who lost their children. Shes in hollywood raising money. Shell have them helping her consult. He will be prepared for these debates. All of his policy prescriptions on defeating radical islamic terrorism on, middleclass tax relief, on law enforcement, on taking his case to the communities but is he going to hold quickly, is he going to hold mock debates . He might. Remember, hes an unconventional the idea of role playing hi friend of all of ours. We appreciate any insight and advice that she is willing to give in her very busy life. We take advice and counsel from many people who have experience and mean to be helpful. This the donald trump, the authentic donald trump whos been taking his case directly to the voters is the one that you will see on the debate stage with Hillary Clinton. I think theyre nervous over in clinton camp because he is the unpredictable x factor. Clinton that basically memorizes lines. You saw the interviews she gave this week on phone by cable stations. She was obviously reading something. I didnt think they went well. The scare strategy for Hillary Clinton, making sure we dont see that much of her, that changes when shes forced to the debate stage. He will be preparing in a very different way. All right. Well leave it there. Kellyanne, thank you very much for coming on. Thanks for your time. Please come back. Thank you, chris. 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I want to start with the remarkable number that the Associated Press came up with this week and that Kellyanne Conway referred to. During the first half of clintons time as secretary of state she met with 154 people from private interests, not u. S. Or foreign officials. 85 donors to the Clinton Foundation and contributed as much as 156 million to the foundation. Karl, i dont have to tell you, money does buy access in this town. Is there anything new here . Yes. The volume is jawdropping. You left out another number. Nearly 150 phone messages left by the ceo of the Clinton Foundation for cheryl mill, Hillary Clintons chief of staff. How many phone calls was she this is a twoyear period. She left a message every three days. Looks like she was constantly in communications. Hillary clinton says i know theres a lot of smoke there, and theres no fire. Well, theres a lot of fire there. The more we look at this, the more we see favors being traded, people being appointed to boards they shouldnt have been on. People attending meetings they shouldnt have been at. People being invited to state dinners. People being able to circumvent the normal process of the state department in order to get special pleading in front of the secretary. Juan, whenou emails from people in the Clinton Foundation to cheryl mills to huma abadabadeen, when see that, does it trouble you, the coziness of the relationship . Yes, it sets off alarm in my mind as a journalist. Before the phone calls and the like, the