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WJZ Face The Nation November 10, 2013

Thinks the u. S. Should proceed on iran, what he thinks of the troubled obamacare roll out. Can the administration get the website fixed . Pin metahas candid advice for the president if it cant. If they cant fix it then i think the president may very well have to accept some changes in order to make sure that we can continue to implement it. Odonnell new Jersey Republican governor Chris Christie wins reelection, are his eyes on another prize see if he thinks he could fix a badly divided Republican Party. Its all ahead because this is face the nation. Captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, face the nation with Bob Schieffer. Substituting for Bob Schieffer cbs this morning cohost nora odonnell. Odonnell good morning again bob will be along later. Seth dohn joins us from beijing the latest on the typhoon. Good morning a. Local official in the philippines suggested as many as 10,000 people might have parished in this typhoon that number is very different when you talk with the Philippine Red Cross which tells us 1200 people whose fluctuating death toll give you indication of how little know about the extent, the scope of this tragedy so far. It was the wind early on that got so much of the attention then disaster but turned out to be the high waves and heavy surf that proved so damaging, so deadly alkn÷qrror Philippine Government tells us around four Million People were affected by this typhoon, 400,000 people displaced from their homes for as bad as this typhoon is, it has not yet over. In fact its barreling toward vietnam where its expected to make landfall early monday morning local time. Already seen around 800,000 people evacuated in that country. Taiwan has seen eight people die in heavy surf, here in Southern China six people knocked off a boat, now missing. As this country now braces for this t4÷qrror nora. Odonnell thank you. Cbs News Reporter filed this report earlier from sabu one of the hardest hit areas. The biggest storm hit the planet, no doubt having seen extent of death and damage that it has caused here in the central philippines. Now my team and i were taught in the middle of the storm and im telling you the winds were tornadolike. The storm surge was like tsunami after storm passed we went out what we saw was complete scene of a coastal town that led hamletly wiped out. There were dead bodies lying everywhere, people who survived were asking, where they could would get food and water in the next few days to be able to survive. Now in tacloban, people have started looting they raided supermarkets, Grocery Stores and electronic stores, just this sense of anarchy and lawlessness that has surrounded this immediate typhoon. Remember, this region was just hit by 7. 1 magnitude earthquake a couple weeks ago. Theres definitely a massive work ahead for the Philippine Government. Odonnell this morning u. S. Attempts to craft an Historic Deal to curb Irans Nuclear deal have fallen apart. Secretary of state john kerry flown to geneva for two days of marathon negotiations, first direct talks between and iran in 36 years. Hopes were high for a deal until concerns were raised by france about whether they could trustee ran. Israel has called this a very bad deal, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu joins us now. Thank you, nora, good morning. Odonnell i know that you never liked this deal from the beginning. Do you feel like the concerns you raised were heard . Im sure they were heard. I dont know if they will be internalized in to a different deal. A deal is not an end itself, i think secretary kerry said the right thing when he said that no deal is better than a bad deal. The deal as was proposed described to us by the american sources they described it as accurately as they can means that iran maintains its capabilit for nuclear bomb. It also maintains another move plutonium to make Nuclear Bombs all iran gives is a minor concession of taking 20 enriched uranium bringing it down to a lower enrichment but that they could cover with a few weeks given the capabilities that they keep for enrichment. So iran effectively becomes a threshold nation, Threshold Nuclear Power nation, makes a minor consection and in exchange for that the International Community reverses the direction of sanctions, gives iran several billion dollars worth in direct assistance, opens up pet roll chemicals, opens up gold, diamond, and other things. This is a huge change from the appreciate that you are was applied on iran through the effective sanctions regime which brought them to the table in the first play in oth words, iran gives practically nothing and it gets a hell of a lot. Thats not a good deal. I hope, i can only express my wish that the p5 plus one use the time to get a good deal that takes away Irans Nuclear military capabilities. Odonnell i know you describe these believe these are minor concessions. But the United States, other europeans believe this would be historic dea÷for the first time it would freeze their Nuclear Weapons program. Why would you not want to take that first step . Because the whole thrust of the sanctions and negotiations has been to get iran to degreel community has put forward. And the Security Council resolution spelled out. Iran should take away the centrifuges and plutonium, should dismantle the heavy water reactors, nora, how many centrifuges are dismantled in this. Odonnell tellly. Zero. Not one. Zero. In other words, iran maintains all capabilities. It built itself up in the face of International Decision and resolution, it defied them, went right up to very close to the top and now it stays there. It doesnt bring down, dismantle one centrifuge, it continues to have the mountains of material from which they can take in to the centrifuge make atomic bombs. All theyre doing taking a little material that they enriched to higher degree and bring it back, thats nothing. Remember, this street a country that has tens of thousands of people in death to america the other day, this is a participating as we speak in the mass slaughter of men, women, children, tens of thousands of them in syria. This is a country that for many in five continents, country that pledges to destroy the state of israel and subvert so many of the other countries. Not only my concern that this is a bad deal, there are many arab leaders in the region who are saying, this is a very bad deal for the region and for the world. You know, when you have the arabs and israelis speaking in one voice, doesnt happen very often, i think its worth paying attention to us. Odonnell did you help lobby against this deal . Lobby . Yes, of course, lobby. Thats an understatement. I speak im expressing as i said not only the concerns of israel but the concerns of many, many in the reason some say it out loud, some stay it behind closed doors. But ill tell you this is a broad feeling here. Broad feeling that iran is, you know, might hit the jackpot here. Its not good. Not good for us, not good for america, not good for the middle east. Not good for europe either. I dont think its good for russia or china by the way ive spoken to the leaders of most of these countries. Odonnell do you think if the obama put too much trust in the new Iranian Regime . Look, i think the president and i share the goal of making sure that iran doesnt have Nuclear Weapons. I think where we might have a difference of opinion is on how to prevent it. I think that what has been built up over time, sure the iranians built the program over time but International Community led by the United States, has built up a Census Program that has been very effective. And it got iran to come to the table. Now what is happening is that for effectively nothing, or virtually no consections iran gets to keep its nuclear capabilities, that is the capabilities that enable it to manufacture the material for Nuclear Bombs. I think the other aspects of metallurgy, that is not in the deal thats another component of making the bomb. They get to keep all that. And at the same time the International Community takes the one effective thing which has been the sanctions regime and they reverse direction. They begin to legitimize iran as having these capabilities, thats a bad thing. But they you know that the price of any good, at any time is the expectati future. In iran where theres a lot of pressure these days the pressure is going to be let off, the valve is going to be let off on the Pressure Cooker because people understand its over. Its not merely the direct benefit, the direct easement of the sanctions but the multiplier affect of expectation that is going to relief the pressure in iran and going to start, im afraid a scramble in the International Community who gets to ease their sanctions with iran faster. Not a good idea. Not a good deal. A very bad deal. Odonnell can i ask you, president obama said this deal would include very modest relief on the sanctions. And that there would be a freeze, that would begin immediately then you could deal with the capability later on, why are you not convinced that that could be the final deal thats re process . Because the easing of the sanctions is a tremendous concession on the part of the people at plus one. Theres a multiplier affect, signalling affect to the markets both inside iran and the world when you reverse a direction that youve been effectively put in, the dn and even more pressure on iran now youre going the other way, thats like putting a hole in your it may not be a big hole, may be a middlesized hole or small hole but the air begins come out and pretty soon you have a flat tire thats whats puncture the sanctions does. I think that is thats exactly why the iranians are deal, they get nothing but get the hole in the tire of the sanctions and the air begins to come out. Thats what they want. Theyre p but i dont think theyre that shrewd i think we understand it, i think the region understands it. I hope that the p5 plus one understand it because bad feel is bad for them, too. Ultimately bad for the world. Odonnell Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu thank you. Thank you. Odonnell leon panetta served as president obamas aca direct for before leaving administration. Bob schieffer sat down with the former secretary at his home in monterey, california. Asked him what he thought about a potential nuclear deal with iran. I think weve got to be very careful. Weve got to be very skeptical. Iran is a country that has promoted terrorism, they have had a hidden enrichment facility that we had to find out about so weve go make sure that even with some kind of interim agreement that we know what the next steps are going to be in order to ensure that they really do stand by their word. Schieffe thats what people are frustrated by. Obvious problems that need to be fixed that the people in washington, both parties are not fixing these problems nor is the president. And thats the problem. They look at place like new jersey where were not using divided government as excuse not to act. We get together, we argue, we fight, we debate. But then we get around a table and we conclude the argument by getting things done and theyre not doing that in washington. That is the thing that i think frustrates americans the most and i know it frustrates new jerseyians when looking at washington, d. C. You just got elected to second term. Youre going to be the chairman of the Republican Governors Association, a lot of republicans ive spoken with say you are in fact already laying the ground work to run for president in 2016. What does mary pat say about this . Mary pat completely supportive of the two jobs that i told her i have in 2014. In my professional live. One being governor of new jersey, and looking to finish the job we started in the first four years. The second is rhyme honored to be chairman of the Republican Governors Association, 36 governors races in ee ,,,, what he hoped would be signature achievement called is called obama care has nothing short of its almost become a parody of the government cant seem to do anything right. You have held a variety of posts, Committee Chairman in congress, two cabinet posts, white house chief of staff. If you were on the president s staff right now what would you advise him to do . I think the most important thing some of the steps that hes taken to acknowledge the mistakes that were made to apologize for them. To make clear that hes going to do Everything Possible to fix the website so that it works. I think its really important, at least in my own experience, that you cannot rely on the bureaucracys to do this kind of work. I mean, theyre good people, theyre dedicated but very frankly theyre not the ones that really have the capabilities to in fact get this done. So, i would drive this out of the white house, i would have an ongoing task force, id have one person in charge of it and i would meet every day to make sure that theyre getting this straight. Because i think the president s trust on this program is really going to be dependent on his ability to fix it and they have said they want to fix it by the end of november. But i think thats going to be tough. These are complicated processes and youve got to make sure very sure that you are in fact fixing it. Schieffer you think they should just shut the whole thing down and start over is that what is going to have to be done . I think they ought to be able to try and fix the systems. I mean frankly they have done it before it started, they should have gotten it right in place. And there are too many players so they really ought to try to make sure that theyre going to be able to fix this system by the end of november. I hope they can. But if they cant they ought to be honest about what theyre confronting. And i think ultimately that if they can fix it they can put this back on the right track. If they cant fix it then i think the president may very well have to accept some changes in order to make sure that we can continue to implement it. Medicare went through this, the shakedown. Medicaid went through the shake down these are complicated programs. But youve got to be able to adjust. Youve got to be able to see what you have to do in order to make them work better and you ought to be open to that this if in fact thats required. Schieffer the president has apologized for telling people that they could keep their Health Care Plan if they liked it. Now thats obviously not going to be possible. Do you think hes done enough by saying that . I think its important for him to acknowledge that. I do think that they need to do Everything Possible now with regards to those that may be having their policies cancelled to make sure that those people are being well served and can get new plans at a reasonable premium. Thats something you really ought to focus on. Schieffer i want to ask you about the ongoing revelations about the National Security agency. Do you think this agency went too far, mr. Secretary . Bob, you know, my experience with these intelligence agencies is that these are professionals who do a great job at gathering the kind of intelligence thats important to protecting this country. We went through 9 11 and we learned that very frankly we did not have good intelligence with regards to what al qaeda was doing. They have developed very good approaches to going after intelligence. Let me tell you something else, that these agencies dont go out just gather intelligence on their own they do it pursuant to priorities that are established by the national Security Council and the white house. They dont just do this hit and miss on their own. They do it pursuant to what theyre direct to do. Schieffer you were in the rare position of running both the cia and Defense Department which age see do you think is better suited to run the Drone Program . You know, this is without getting in to classified information, it is an operation that obviously i think we made a great deal of progress on at the cia. It was a very effective operation in terms of establishing targets and conducting very specific strikes at going after poor al qaeda leadership. They did a very good job. And at the pentagon there is a comparable capability to do that. And one of the things frankly when i was secretary i said, we ought to pay more attention at the Defense Department to how cia handled this operation because they really have a very effective process. So, i think thats happening. I think the pentagon is beginning to develop that kind of capability. I think ultimately the more we can probably put in to the military the better because its a much more open process. But there are always going to be the need for the kind of clandestine operation that the cia and cia alone can operate. I think we are best off if we can maintain both of those capabilities. Schieffer leadership it seems to me is about priorities. President obama has three years to go here, what do you think his priorities should be over the next three years . I want president obama to be successful. To have a legacy. And office. There are important areas where i think he has made an important contribution, but more is going 4vpi think hes got a good legy on the economy in term

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