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So offense report listing items seized in the car including a past plastic bag containing white powdery substance a secret service business card credit cards and $100.00 Biden's driver's license that is what we would call evidence and I don't want to make light of anybody's substance abuse issues I know presidents working real hard to solve those throughout the country but it's a little hard to believe that barista hired 100 Biden to resolve their international disputes when he could not resolve his own dispute with Hertz rental car over lean believe in cocaine a crack pipe in the car it continues. Hundreds stayed in Los Angeles for about a week he said that he needed to get away and forget soon after his arrival in l.a. He said he asked a homeless man in Pershing Square where he could buy crack under said the man took him to a nearby homeless encampment where a narrow passageway between tents someone put a gun to his head before realizing that he was the buyer he referred he returned to buy more crack a few times that week again not saying you're not casting any judgment on any challenges someone goes through their personal life but it is just hard to believe that this was the guy wandering through a homeless encampment by a crack that was worth $86000.00 of birth to very small holdings and that might be one of the reasons why when a.b.c. Asked one of Biden Hey you think you would have gotten this job in the absence of your dad being the vice president well he said Probably not and then I looked to the record evidence and I looked at the testimony of Mr Can Mr Kant was one of the witnesses they called on the 1st day he said very small was so dirty that our own embassy had to pull out of a joint sponsorship with them when Ambassador Yavanna that was being prepped for her Senate confirmation the Obama administration was so worried about the corruption around Verismo on her Biden that they held special prep moments to try to get ready for the inevitable questions about this obvious corruption that the president asked about Mr Ken again one of the witnesses from the 1st day also gave testimony that Barry sma had stood at the head of very small had stolen $23000000.00 in the u.s. And the u.k. And that he paid a bribe to get off the hook so again it's not as if Verismo is pulling out new plays their playbook is to do dirty stuff and then go and pay bribes and hire the people necessary to make those problems go away. This is why the minority hearing issue is so important by the way you wonder why Republicans are so angry that we didn't have a hearing put on our own witnesses and our own evidence and you may wonder why Wolf they feel so good about their case why did they block our ability to put in evidence it's because we have the ability to show that is corrupt we have the ability to show that 100 Biden is corrupt and that totally exculpates to quote the president because there is no way in the United States of America that honestly pursuing actual corruption is an impeachable offense that's why they offer the amendment 9 courage my colleagues to vote for it. Mr Chairman I resist I withdraw my point of order. Mr Chairman. Gentlemen. Generally the years back where purposes Mr Jones a secret a move to strike the last word it was regulars Mr Chairman I rise in opposition to this amendment and I would say that this is Hank Johnson Democrat of Georgia calling the kettle black is not something that we should do. I don't know I mean I don't know what members if any have had any problems with substance abuse been busted in DUI. I don't know but if I did I wouldn't raise it against. Anyone on this committee I don't think it's proper and and you know I think we've got to get back down to what is most important here is this is something this is a question that stands out like a big crowd being sort tobe inside of us shoe that is too small and that is this question Is it ever Ok for a president of the United States of America to invite foreign interference in an upcoming presidential election campaign. You know silenced it is silent and you don't want to be led into silence really there's the silence some. People respond was and is deafening. And there'll be plenty of time for you to respond to that question and I would invite you to do so I gave you an opportunity of about 10 to 15 seconds while you could get your story together and nobody came up with a story so I'm going to let you move to strike the last word and explain that to the American people it's never proper for a United States president to hold a foreign country over a barrel to make them do that president's personal bidding. And holding needed security assistant dying willing it. And dangling the fact that I'll give it to you if you do this I mean that's exactly what happened it's like. The American people understand what happened those are the those are the facts the president said it when he released the transcript of the summary of of that phone call on July 25th the summary of the president's own words shows that the president tried to get presidents Olinsky to interfere in the upcoming presidential election that is a stablished by the facts so this is not about Hunter Biden and they've said that on the other side repeatedly up until they start talking about Hunter Biden having some substance abuse problems you can't have it both ways let's be honest this is about our conscience the conscience of the nation conscience my friends on the other side of the aisle do you believe that we should allow this to go unaddressed what the president did because we are a country a president. We are a country of rule of law we are a country of norms and traditions are we going to allow the violation of our norms our traditions our legal precedents because after all bribery was not a crime there was no criminal code when the framers passed the constitution but they said bribery in there and what bribery meant was I'm offering you something if you do something for me I'll give you this in other words you give me this I'll give you that that's what we had in this case that's what bribery means it doesn't depend on a statute it depends on what we know was done and so let's not get bogged down in technicalities and in character assassination let's keep our eye on what really happened in this case and whether or not our conscious content is dictate that we do something about it we can't let it go unaddressed and the way that we deal with this grave abuse of the public trust is with the drastic action that it requires because this is a drastic circumstance the drastic action is impeachment and that's why we're here today and I asked my colleagues to let your conscience be your guide you back it will be years back was decided for a purpose as Mr Sensenbrenner Sharon Angle to strike the last word. And Chairman I my mind is blog old I am a gentleman James Sensenbrenner Republicans Wisconsin rivalry was Ok until 787 when the Constitution was adopted in 2 years later when Congress passed the 1st criminal caught off 1st farce a common law definition of bribery. People logged before 787 to realize that bribery was no good but we also had criminal codes and each of the 13 independent states colonies before the Declaration of Independence with a gentleman and so my question no I'm I'm I'm sure I didn't interrupt you. Ok The 2nd thing is that. If you on the other side of the aisle believe that you'll buy is a man who tells the truth you ought to support this amendment because Joe Biden ever since Hunter's involvement. Has been repeatedly asked whether he made any arrangements to get under this really cushy job and he said no or my son's business involvement surmise and not involved in that so you put Joe Biden's name in your articles of impeachment when the real malefactor is 100 By 100 is not running for anything. And if real malefactor really is hotter Biden I guess your claim that the president was trying to influence the 20 twentieth's election would go out the window but if you think that Joe Biden is a man who tells the truth and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because I think he deserves to then let's get rid of Joe Biden in this article of impeachment substitute his son's name in there and proceed I challenge you because every one of you that will vote no on this amendment is going to be saying I think that Joe Biden is a liar if you don't think that Joe Biden is a liar Oh yes I yield the balance of my time to Mr Gates. Thank you Mr Chairman and again it's important to analyze that Republican Florida it's the Democrats who are saying any question about the Biden situation Barry sma it could only be an abuse of power and I think this amendment really reflects how the president was using as a power power perfectly entirely appropriately and it also shows how scared they are of the fact if we had the opportunity to call in those who are engaged in work with the Ukraine embassy folks like Alexander Chalupa if we were able to bring forward 100 Biden were able to demonstrate the bias of the whistleblower the American people would see we are not in this debate and in this discussion because the president did anything wrong or impeachable or criminal we're here fundamentally because they cannot accept the fact that he won the 2016 election and I think all Americans know the president has a different approach but to accept their standard would mean that if someone announces that they're running for office it's kind of like an instant immunity deal for anything that they would ever do I mean they are they really saying that if Joe Biden 100 Biden very small were engaged in some corrupt act that just because Joe Biden announced for the presidency that somehow out of all to absolve him of that criminal activity it's a ludicrous position maybe it's informed by the fact that. It all got a little lucky on the Hillary Clinton stuff you know and she thought that because she was in a presidential election that her crimes didn't have to be held to account. In a way that turned out to be the case but you know what it shouldn't be the standard in the United States of America and I'm glad that we have a president who is at times skeptical of foreign aid who does put America 1st who understands that in corrupt places the resources we provide don't always make it to an area of need but we concluded this once the meetings happened the demonstrated the president's Alinsky was a true reformer and he wasn't corrupt but he was honest honest from the point of his campaign all the way up and to the point when he said there was no pressure put on him or his government for this say except that proposition it's very clear the president was entirely appropriate in those questions and I got to say in debate on the last amendment now we have reached the point in time a President Trump in the only president being attacked in this hearing I heard the gentleman from Tennessee go after Selenski as well an actor or a politician and they presume he's a liar when he says there was nothing wrong you know what they can't mistake their case against a president names car attacking Zelinsky and it shows it just shows the absurdity of measure time is expired what purpose does his Jackson really he's recognition I was asking if I could respond by nameless as I was called No Was services Ms Jackson Lee secret rise to strike the last word Louise regulars' I think the chairman Sheila Jackson Lee Democrat of Texas is about distraction distraction distraction. I the friend spent 3 hours saying President did not target the bines now they're saying that he did so which is it that I'm holding the classified and classified conversation and let me just clarify a certain point and that point is that I did read the transcript and it did say us but there is nothing in the president's notes that even suggested that the question that he. Was for the American people and testimony by Mr Goldman who obviously went through every aspect of this I asked the question about whether or not the president said anything from the notes that are given the briefing that is given by those representatives of the United States government the staff of the National Security Council the State Department of Defense Department on corruption he didn't speak anything about corruption that he was briefed on and if you go through the call he continues to mention the Bidens and so this again is about Ukraine the president did ask Ukraine the president of Ukraine a honorable leader of a country that is fledgling and trying to survive now let me say that I intend to introduce into the record and article that indicated very clearly. That people did die from froze military aid as Ukrainian soldiers perched in battle l.a. Times I asked him and his consent to submit that into the record but the facts are the well. The facts are President Trump provided $510000000.00 in aid in 201-7359 1000000 2018 but he wanted to stop in 2019 a year or months before the 2020 a lecture in addition President Trump's advisers confirmed the president trumps investigations 2016 election periods and the binds were not u.s. Policy and as well they have debunked any association that there was anything to the impropriety of the former vice president and his service as related to Ukraine. I think it is also important Department Defense and State Department confirm that Ukraine it met all anti-corruption benchmarks and the age should be released that's the policy of the United States of America there was no need for this president to in essence try to make up his own policy and his own statement of administrative policy and I ask unanimous consent to ask those in the record this is from the White House nothing in this set to discuss corruption why because Ukraine had already met the standards of independent executive agencies that they had met that standard of corruption their money should have been released and we well know as the process of the whistleblower in the timing the president's Alinsky desperate for money people dying in the feel was asked to do a c.n.n. . Announcement and he was going to be on one of C.N.N.'s well known shows dealing with international politics but it was stopped in its tracks as testified by witnesses under oath because of the whistleblower statement let me be very clear there is some representation crime crime crime 1st of all our scholars indicated that these are impeachable offenses the conduct of the president is and peach will and there's enough evidence to show but as I indicated yesterday this my friends is a legal document the Constitution it is a legal document you can't breach and violate the law of the Constitution there are constitutional crimes and the vastness of the impeachment process does include the excess of power by the president of the United States now I knew Barbara Jordan and my friends wanted to quote her. She also said the framers confided in the Congress the power if need be to remove a president ordered to strike a delicate balance between a president swollen with power and ground theory of go and preservation of the independence of the executive you can violate the crimes of the Constitution abuse of power includes this amendment should be defeated Italy it was expired Mr Chair for purposes was to read to see. Who tried last word it was reacting to and to chair John Wright the publican of Texas Ga Mr Johnson's question and he asked before is it ever Ok to invite a foreign government to become involved in an election involving a political opponent. Yes It better be we do it all the time have you that quickly forgotten how the Trump Russia investigation proceeded the Obama administration asked Great Britain and Italy and Australia and other countries to assist in its investigation of a person who was a political opponent from the opposite party I keep hearing over and over again you can't investigate political opponents we have a member of this committee who was as a member of this committee on the Intelligence Committee. Investigating his political opponent Donald Trump at the very moment he was running to replace him as president my colleague on the Intel Committee Mr Castro was investigating President Trump at the very same moment his brother was running to replace President Trump President Trump don't we one with the really legitimate reason to be doing it he is the chief executive. Chief executive were we are in the Judiciary Committee right we do understand the constitution we do understand that the president has the unitary executive is the executive branch and all power in the executive branch derives from the president and the president can and should ask for assistance from foreign governments in ongoing criminal investigations there was an ongoing criminal investigation into what happened in 2016 the attorney general bar at the time of the July 25th call had long before that appointed u.s. Attorney John Durham to exact to investigate exactly that issue it wasn't just appropriate it was absolutely the president's constitutional duty and Hunter Biden the president has as the chief executive the ability to ask about matters where there is a prime aphasia case of corruption what do we have with respect to 100 Biden tons of money for a position where he has no Ukraine experience where he has no experience with Ukraine or with energy and at the very same time that Ukrainians were deciding that Hunter Biden was the perfect person to get that sweetheart deal the Chinese were deciding that Hunter Biden was the perfect person to get a sweetheart deal to manage $1500000000.00 in financial assets and when the Ukrainian government wanted to investigate corruption like we all keep talking about they need to or they start investigating breeze man what happens Joe Biden says you better fire that prosecutor investigating corruption into breeze or you're not going to get a 1000000000 dollars and 6 hours later that's what happened that's called influence peddling that is a crime. And there is a prime aphasia case of that and it is absolutely appropriate for a president to ask about that yield to my friend. I think the general I think the general for us want to respond to the comments from other delay from Texas she said the president during the Republican of Ohio well that's how it works in our country you get your name on a ballot you run for office you go talk to the American people they evaluate it all and Election Day that is side who they want making the policy that's how it works in our country it's not the unelected people telling the elected individual how we do things because the unelected people aren't directly accountable to We Are people it's what makes our system the best the greatest And when you turn that on its head that's when you get problems and we saw it happen because we heard Chuck Schumer say on January 3rd 2017 when you mess with the intelligence community they have 6 ways from Sunday and getting back at you now that is a scary statement because that is saying the unelected people can get back at the person who put their name on a ballot and got elected to high office the highest office in this situation. So for someone all in the United States Congress to say the president made up his own policy and somehow that is wrong that that should be a frightening position to take but I guess that's where the Democrats are today in their quest to go after this president making statements like that statements by our colleague and statements by Senator Schumer. Here. Chairman what purposes the. Secretive to strike the last lady's regulars you know there are issues for the election and then there are issues for this committee the behavior of this is a law for and Democrat of California and frankly the behavior of president trumps 2 sons and daughter may be discussed in the election but here we're talking about the abuse of presidential author

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