This problem is for the house of representatives to pass legislation fixing our broken immigration system. Hes been president for 5 1 2 years, when will he take responsibility for something . Well discuss with Texas Governor rick perry, who met with the president , and the chair of the Homeland Security committee michael mccaul. Plus with all finger pointing between the white house and congress, how will immigration affect the november election. Our panel weighs in, right now on fox news sunday. Hello again. What began as a crisis, thousands of children attempting to cross the southern u. S. Border is now a matter of policy and politics. President obama has called on congress to approve nearly 4 billion to address the influx of children, but his discussion not to visit the border has criticized by the right and even some on the left. Well talk with a key house leader in a moment. First the governor of texas rick perry. Welcome back to fox news sunday. Good morning. Let me ask you about the call you and others have made to send the National Guard down to the border. What exactly would National Guards men and women do on the border . We called some four years ago for 1,000 National Guard troops to temporarily go to the border so they could help push forward that show the force, if you will. Theyre there for a limited period of time until you have an opportunity to train up some 3,000 more Border Patrol agents to go and replace them. What that does and you move the board are patrol forward. The president was not even aware his Border Patrol was 40, 45 miles away back from the border. They need to be right on the river, as a show of force. Thats the message that gets sent back very quickly to Central America. Its important to do that, because this flood of children is pulling around the Border Patrol from their normal duties of keeping bad people, keeping the drug cartels, theyre being distracted, so that i would suggest is a very obvious reason that those National Guard troops should come play an important role. But if you strung them out along the border, analysis guardsmen and women, they are not, under the law, allowed to apprehend any of these children that are crossing, are they . Well, the issue is with being able to send that message. Its the visual that i think is the most important. We know that. We listen to the conversations or i should say their conversations are being monitored with calls back to the Central America, and the message is come on up here, everything is great, theyre taking care ofs. That needs to stop. If you dont stop the blooding. If you dont staunch the flow of individuals coming up here, it will only get worse. At that point in time, the size of this crisis will be even more monumental. I think everybody agree with his that, governor, but the question im trying to get at with you is this if these children undergoing the harrowing journeys to escape the most desperate conditions from their conditions have gotten this far, are they really going to be detier by the presence of troops along the border who wont shoot them and cant arrest them . I think were talking about two Different Things here. What were talking about is sending the message back now so we can staunch the bleeding. Those here to address them to human tearily take care of them, process them as quickly as you can to reunite them with their families. Thats the most humanitarian thing that we can do, and the National Guard is absolutely a Trained Group of men and women that can address that particular function, one that they should. Theyre not there in a vacuum. We have massive amounts of texas Law Enforcement now, whether its our texas ranger recon teams there. You saw some of that on fox this last week with the boats that we have in the river, the texas parks and wildlife. Those are all Law Enforcement individuals who can in fact arrest those that have illegally come in and appropriately deal with them. But more importantly, this is allowing the Border Patrol to get back to what they are supposed to do. Right now, reports of up to 70 of them are taking care of these young people who have come in rather than doing their job of securing the border. Governor, let me turn, if i can, to the president s comments the other day after his meeting with you, in which he said that he hoped that you would put the heat on the texas delegation, texas congressional delegation to pass this nearly 4 million mesh tower hes proposing to address the crisis. First, what do you think about the proposal . And second, are you prepared or at least encourage the members of the texas delegation to vote for it . I appreciate the time the president gave me. I think it was important for him to take time and listen to what is going on on the border. I do think he should go to the border himself and take a look, just like some of these democrat colleagues, and a number of us on the republican side want him to. As i look at that piece of legislation, it is a very large amount of money. As you analyze it, very little of it is for Border Security. I think until he gets realistic about the problem and how you deal with the problem and it is a Border Security issue. Weve got a track record of fiveplus years of disregarding whats going on on the border. Heres his opportunity to truly lead. Dont blame this on anyone. Be a leader, lay out a plan, and i will suggest actually the president doesnt have to have this big amount of money. He could pick up the phone today, call the dod and direct them to have the 1,000 troops ott otter. In other words, governor you dont particularly support the bill and youre not encouraging your delegation to pass this. Is that a Fair Assessment . I think you have distilled the correct answer. Let me see if i can make another distillation. The laws on the books now seem to mean if one of these children from Central America is ability to set foot on american soil, shes entitled to be taken into custody, given a notice, and then cared for by the federal government until their case can be disposed of by a judge. That being the case, doesnt the law have to be changed to stem the flow of these children coming into the country . Yes, it does well, there are two things going on here. That law needs to be changed, partly because it was discriminatory, other than mexicans and individuals that come from mexico. I think members of congress understand it needs to be change, both democrats and republicans, but the other side is, to staunch this flow, you do not have to have a change of law. What you have to have is this clear presence on the border, where people understand that you no lodger can just freely walk across the rio grande and stay in america from now on. Thats the message to be sent. I get thats the message. What i dont quite understand it is with the law being the way it is, the presence of more troops or forces on the border who are not legally able to apprehend these immigrants, these border crossers, is going to change anything without the law being changed first. Heres the way it will. The presence and weve done this multiple times. Weve surged large amounts of texas Law Enforcement with local Law Enforcement and coordinating with the Border Patrol into sectors. We dont have the ability on a 1200mile border to do that. About 20 of the individuals coming across are unaccompanied alien children. You have 80 of people out there that these falls dont fall into, but were being pulled away to deal with the children. My point is you bring boots on the ground to send that message clearly, both visually and otherwise. At that particular point in time, i think this flow from Central America gets staunched by a substantial margin. The president would be wise to put the National Guard troops on the border, and he doesnt have to have congresss approval for that. Pick up the phone, be a leader, makes a difference. Governor, i think we got the message. Thank you for joining us today. Yes, sir. Let es bring in Homeland Security economiee chairman, congressman michael mccaul, also of texas. First of all, chairman, lets talk about this situation. Im not talking about the flow of adult aliens from everywhere, but the children who have come in such numbers now from the last year or more from Central America. As governor perry noted, the law treats them differently. What is your view on the law and the changes that may be needed in it, and what kind of priority does that deserve in trying to address this crisis . There are two laws at issue. One was an executive action taken by the president after congress failed to pass the dream act. In 2012. What does that do . It allowed illegal aliens, children to stay in the United States. But only a certain category of illegal alien children, correct . Prior to 2007. So these children crossing the border now are ineligible for the protection afforded by that law. They are, but the problem is the drug traffickers who market this to the children in Central America, and make money off them, 5,000 to 8,000 a head, are selling this line that if they get into the United States, they can stay. What dhs, department of Homeland Security interviewed 90 of these children said, i came because i could get a free pass, a permiso to state in the United States. That doesnt necessarily mean that the obama order caused that isnt it the case, as i discussed with governor perry, under the law if they get their feet on the ground, theyre entitled to a range of protection to keep them in this country for some period of time, and at the rate of 50,000 a year, its likely to be a long time indeed before deportation proceedings can be carried out. Thats correct. The First Executive action created the perception they get a free pass. The second piece,s 2008 law, if youre from mexico, you have a more expeditious removal from the United States, returned homes. Other than mexicans are treated differently, and we thing they should be treated the same. Would that mean, would it not, a Border Patrol agent apprehending a group of these children could say, im sorry, turn them away on the spot, correct . It would provide fora more swift removal and return to home safely to Central America. Those with fear of percent could you and violence, have a legal basis to possibly stay, but we think that law needs to be changed. You have to do that, because you have to have a merge of deterrence. Brit, i was down there on the border, unlike the president , i saw the children, mothers with their babies, its heartwrenching. I also saw 17yearolds who looked more like a threat coming into the United States. Theyre caught in the middle between the administrations policies and what the drug traffickers are doing in Central America. So they have this perilous dangerous journey through mexico where theyre exploited, abused, raped, and in some cases dont make it at all. We think if we change this law, we can protect and save these children. All right. Where does legislatively where does this whole matter stand . The president has requested fourplus billion, which i guess in addition to dealing with this also deals with money for wildfires, and this attempt to change the law. Can he get any of this money without the law being changed first or at least part of it . Our view as house republicans, is look, were not going to write a blank check for 4 billion. It will be a more targeted approach, but also on the policy side, im on the speakers working group, were looking at things like changing the 2008 law, were looking at things like my Border Security bill passed out of my committee, putting that as a provision, so finally we can get this thing done. How likely will there be action on this soon . I believe we have to act soon. Theres a crisis at hand that demoonds action, a call for, a. Its a tragic human crisis at the border, none line ive ever seen. I think we need to act before the august recess. What do you think the chances are . I think very good, if we can have a targeted appropriations bill that also how much would you be willing to vote for . Thats up to the appropriators, but i think it will be limited to the end of this fiscal year rather than a twoyear appropriation. You know, 4 of the president s supplemental budget deals with Border Security. We think more should be allocated. Against my bill deals with that in an accountable way with a twoyear timeline to get operational control. Most people want security first. In the meantime are you repared to vote for money to accommodate these children who have already crossed . I think we have to deal with this in a humane and compassionate way, but im not willing to warehouse the children. If were going to build facilities, perhaps we should think about do that in the cunning of origin, where they can better deal with the children. That wont be cheap, will it . Look, again, its about deterren deterrence, security and dealing with these children in a hue main, compassionate way to return them safely to home. Mr. Chairman, good of you to come in. Change you for joining us. 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Residents of tel aviv in the surrounding area much of saturday night were racing to bomb shelters hamas issued a vague threat about an impending attack. At 9 08, a barrage of rockets rained down on central israel. Rockets threatening lives and problem were intercepted by the iron dome missile system. There were no injuries. At least 21 people were killed in a strike at the home of the hamas police chief, many were reportedly leaving a nearby mosque. Israel is targeting militants homes as part of the offensive. In total, 120 homes have been bombed. So far more than 150 people have been killed in gaza. Many of them civilians, including children. Israel accuses hamas of using its own people as human shields. Brit, as you mentioned, israel in the past day has been dropping leaflets over northern gaza, telling residents there to evacuate in anticipate of what they describe as a brief military operation. During the past few hours, we have seen a number of air strikes in that area, but nowhere near the number some had expected. This is a part of gaza home to some 100,000 palestinians, and s