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Government for official business while she was secretary of state . The same time everybody else earned it through news reports. Were you disappointed . The policy by administration is to encourage transparency. And thats why my emails through blackberry that i carry around, all those records, are available, and archived, and im glad that hillary is instructed that those emails that had to do with official business knead to be disclosed. Well talk with a former clinton lawyer in a moment. But first mike huckabee, whos dealt with the clintons since before his days as governor of arkansas. Governor secretary clintons spokesman, nick merrill, says that she abided by quote, both the letter and spirit of the rules. And state Department Official official marie harf said even if she waited two years after she left office to turn over all of her emails, thats all right. Here she is. I do know that at that time, there was no time requirement. Now there is. And she has given everything according to her staff to the state department. So governor what did Hillary Clinton do wrong . Well, theres a protocol that she didnt follow. That it was a directive from within the Obama Administration. I think theres also some legal issues about whether or not its a good idea, even a lawful idea, to store top secret information, to which a secretary of state would be privy to on a personal server in a personal home away from all the firewalls that the government would provide. And whether or not shes given all the emails, i mean the fact is, we really dont know. Because if shes the only one who has access to them, she can redact what she wants. I think thats problematic for her, more in explanation, even if she does turn them over. Theres going to be accusations that thats not all there is. And why do you think that secretary clinton did it . That, i cant answer other than there were things that she just didnt want to have in the public eye. I think anybody whos ever been in politics would love to keep a lot of things quiet. Not because theyre necessarily evil or criminal. But just because people want the candor of conversation. But i think that in the position of secretary of state one has to understand that that they would be a serious target for being hacked and weve seen how easy it is for some of these foreign entities, and even domestic entities to hack into private email accounts. I think thats problematic, and it could compromise national security. You talk about the fact that we dont know what we dont know. There are a number of congressional committees, there are a number of private lawsuits, that have sought all the records all the emails, related to their various cases from secretary clinton, since it was her team that decided what to turn over to the state department. How will we ever know whether thats a complete record . Thats exactly the point, chris. We dont. And if youre depending upon somebody who is under investigation to be in charge of the investigation, you dont have much of an investigation. It just doesnt have the credibility. And thats what i find interesting, as well as the fact that it appears that from the president to robert gibbs, from john kerry, there are people in the administration that are walking away from Hillary Clinton on this and kind of leaving her out there twisting in the find. I find that as interesting as i do the fact that these emails were kept in her private server, in her home somewhere away from public view, and that her private email account was the one with which she did official business. Thats what makes it problematic. If she governor of shopping on amazon, that would have been different, chris. Let me ask you about that, though. Its been suggested that a neutral party, an inspector general, a retired jo, should be able to have access to go through her entire private server to make sure that she has turned over everything thats relevant. What do you think of that idea . Well, it may be what shes forced to have to do just to eliminate all the questions. Not that they will ever all be eliminated. Because once this shadow of doubt has been placed, i think its going to linger throughout a president ial campaign should she decide to run. Finally, you, as we said, were the governor of arkansas, and came into office four years after bill clinton left office. But you had a lot of dealings before and during your term with the clintons. How familiar does all this seem to you . Very familiar. And let me be very clear. Bill clinton, or Hillary Clinton, has been on the ballot in arkansas or the nation every two years since 1974 except for 1988 and then the time, once bill clinton was elected president , then it was every four years. Hillary clinton was on the ballot, of course, to be u. S. Senator and then u. S. President. So weve had a clinton on the ballot in over 13 elections over the period of the past 41 years. That means that when bill clinton was governor, he made about 1200 appointments a year. Thats an incredible political machine. Every campaign i was ever in the clintons personally campaigned for my opponent. I know what it is to face what is an extraordinary political machine. Im not bitter about it, because frankly my attitude has been look, these are people who know how to play politics. They play to win. They use every tool at their disposal to win. Ive always had a decent personal relationship with the clintons. Still do. I look at it like michael corleone once looked at the business he was in. Its not personal, its just business. But chris it is a tough business, and when you challenge the clinton political machine, whether its in arkansas, or anywhere else, you better be up for one heck of a fight. Well, im glad in the comparison to the godfather that there was no disparagement. Governor huckabee, thank you. Thanks for joining us. Always good to talk with you, sir. Thank you, chris. Now we want to bring in former white house special counsel lanny davis, who handled legal troubles in the Clinton White house, including Campaign Finance and impeachment. Lanny, you said repeatedly friday, and this was your quote, Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong. I can understand saying she didnt break the law. But do you really believe she did nothing wrong . I do. But let me correct my friend governor huckabee. I dont want to hurt his political chances, but he is a really good man, and a capable man, but hes wrong on the law. The director of litigation i have you can answer my question. Im asking specifically do you think she did anything wrong . I said no. But she also did nothing illegal and governor huckabee suggested that she might. The reason i dont think she did anything wrong is that number one, theres plenty of precedent, colin powell did exactly the same thing. The rules were completely different. The rules were not yes, there were. There was a new rule in 2009 that came in. In fact the rule in 2009 only talked about preservation, which she has followed. And in 2014 the rules changed. All right. The rules were the same no let me go through if i may. A list of the various rules regulations, laws, that she may have violated. Lets put them up on the screen. May have violated. If i may finish sir. The state departments Foreign Affairs manual said employees must use secure Department Approved computer systems. The agency that regulates the federal records act, thats a law, said emails must be, quote, preserved in the appropriate agency. The Obama White House said private emails must be preserved and later, 2011 when she was still secretary of state, that all work should be conducted on government email. And you say Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong . Sir you interrupted me when i said or about to say that the director of litigation for the very agency you just quoted the national alal Archives Administration said she did nothing illegal or violated any of those rules you just quoted. Not one. And indeed colin powell was subject to those rules because they began in 1995 and the word you used you said may, everything is may, is preserved and she did i want to ask you about preserved. Because when the government said preserved. Do you think they had in mind someone who never turned over any records during the entire four years that she was secretary of state, never pushed over any records when she left as secretary of state did not in fact, turn over any records until almost two years after she left as secretary of state . Do you think thats what the rules meant when president obama, when the federal records act when the foreign manual all talked about preserving records . The answer is yes and you two years after, thats what they meant . And you, Chris Wallace may have a suggested belief of what might have been the case, and the word may. Im talking about what is the case. Those records are preserved. Governor huckabee said well maybe they were deleted. Last time i looked you cannot delete on a hard drive. There can be a neutral party to review all these records. Nothing unlawful youd like to have a neutral party . I said there can be obviously there can be. I understand that. Im asking do you think thats a reasonable idea . I think it is a reasonable idea if anybody has any doubts that theres a delete on a hard drive to have an independent go inspect her private email . I think there is a reasonable idea if the state Department Asks she will say yes. If theres a s p she must say yes. This is a bogus notion that what might be the case versus what is the case. How about the Obama White House in 2011 saying that all work should be conducted on government emails . In fact, the Obama White House has been unclear about what the policy is because there are many president was talking about with bill plante. He didnt say it was unclear. You know, chris, what the president said was he didnt know even though the white house knew and the president then went on to support Hillary Clinton. So if you just let me finish the fact is nobody says its illegal. Shes turned over all of her emails the first secretary of state to ever do that. And Going Forward when did she turn them over . She turned them over last well she said she turned them over in december . To turn everything to the public over. She turned them over last december, yes. Right. Which was almost two years after she left office. And exactly consistent with the law and the law changed in 2014, which i forgot to mention, and the New York Times no, i didnt say that i didnt say it hadnt changed. I said it also changed in 2009. Let me ask you it changed in 2009 and it was complied with if clinton did nothing wrong why did she send out a memo, why did she send out a memo in 2011 to all state department posts with this directive, avoid conducting official Department Business from your personal email accounts. Why was it so important for every other member of the state department, but it was a directive that she ignored . I can explain that by saying that a secretary of state traveling to 111 countries might be needing to have one email system versus people in the department who should use the official system. I wonder why you no no no. I dont understand that. Youre saying its such a burden to have to use state. Gov . I didnt say such a burden. You said such a burden. I said that its understandable. Why . As the secretary why . For the same reason jeb bush had 3 million no, no no. Youre talking about jeb bush and ive heard you play this game before. You dont know. Ive heard you play this jeb bush game before. Its like the republicans doing watergate saying well Lyndon Johnson wiretapped people too. Its completely irrelevant, and please lets not play that game. Well lets not interrupt me and let me explain. What jeb bush im not asking about jeb bush. Im asking why it was that Hillary Clinton in 2011 told all state Department Officials use government emails and she continued to refuse to do it . Chris, i gave you that answer that she as secretary of state had a good reason what was the good reason . I gave you the reason, youre apparently not listening. You said i dont understand somehow it was going to be more convenient . Maybe you dont understand because youre not letting me finish. As a secretary of state, she might feel the need why . Traveling all over. Why . With a handler why is state goin govern not adequate . She may feel the need as secretary of state you wont let me finish. I think jeb bush is a fine man and did nothing wrong. But you wont ask the same question of why does he not use state. Gov. Why dont we talk 3 million emails. Its just a double standard. No, it is like again, its like the republicans talking about Lyndon Johnson during watergate. If Hillary Clinton no it is not. If Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong, explain to me this comment from her in 2007. Our constitution is being shredded. We know about the secret wiretaps. We know about the secret military tribunals. The secret white house email accounts. It is a stunning record of secrecy and corruption. Of cronyism, run amok. Lanny, she certainly thought private emails were a problem then. She said the constitution was being shredded. She listed a number of secrecy acts including private emails. And she has now done the unprecedented, maybe we should white house did the same unprecedented no secretary of state has ever volunteered to turn over all her emails she didnt volunteer. She had to negotiate for four months with the state Department Lawyers. Lawyer to lawyer, before she turned them over from august of last year till december. Why was it so outrageous for the Bush White House to use private emails but for her its okay . So i keep answering your question. There were other things she just listed that she said were outrageous. But she included that. But she did volunteer to release public all of those emails. No other secretary of state, including colin powell, who used official and personal emails, the same way that Hillary Clinton did, shes the only secretary of state to openly ask the public to look at all these emails, and wants them public right now. Finally as we said at the beginning, you served in the Clinton White house handing legal matters like Campaign Finance, like impeachment. Do you ever get tired of cleaning up after the clintons . No you say cleaning up because you have a certain perspective. I am proud, given the publica rear and the public good of bill and Hillary Clinton as reflected by the popular goodwill they have across the country, unlike Chris Wallace, i dont regard it as when you say unlike Chris Wallace. Unlike me in what way . Well you call it cleaning up. Youre entitled to your viewpoint. I am proud to defend a great public servant. Monica lewinsky . Proud of Campaign Finance . Proud of the private emails . So those are moments of pride for the clintons . Thereve been mistakes. The last time you got very heated about the clintons was whitewater for four years i never discussed whitewater. You never decided that whitewater is a scandal . Nope. All right. Well then youre about the only person that i know nope i never did. In the business of the media. Remember whitewater. This is another bogus i thought Campaign Finance was a scandal. And what precisely ever happened with the clintons on Campaign Finance. Do you think that that was a great moment . Johnny chung . You really want to relitigate that . Do you want to relitigate monica lewinsky, and misleading a grand jury and do you want to relitigate all of that . You ask me whether im proud, you call it cleanup. I dont call it cleanup. After all that you just mentioned bill clinton left with a 65 approval rating. Hillary clinton today is the most popular politician in the country. And youre discussing a nonscandal, nothing illegal full access. And its all politics. Lanny, thank you. Thank you for as always, whatever you call it youve been doing it for a long time. Thank you well stay on top of this. Up next will we ever get the full story of the Clinton Emails . Our sunday group joins the conversation. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel about Hillary Clintons private emails . Just go to facebook or twitter, foxnewssunday and we may use your question on the air. Lds newest Energy Superpower. Surprised . In fact, america is now th