Will the gop hang together . Is their hold on congress at stake if they dont . That debate ahead with the senate, the white house, and our powerhouse roundtable. Well break down the politics, smoke out the spin. The facts that matter this week. From abc news, its this week. Here now, chief anchor george stephanopoulos. Good morning, the litany of allegations continued to grow more women came forward. Charging powerful men with Sexual Misconduct. Its sparked a National Conversation from hollywood to capitol hill, in Corporate Board rooms and kitchen tables all across the country. Question now, will all this talk bring real change . He mashes his lips against my face. And he stuck his tongue in my mouth. Leeann tweeden said that happened on a uso tour back in 2006 before al franken was a senator. Just the latest in a series of disturbing stories. I remember the lurch when i went to the desk and i said, mr. Weinstein is he on the patio . They said, hes in his room. I was like, ugh. Are you kidding me . I am a victim of sexual abuse. Its not an easy thing to let yourself believe that. In the wake of the wave, the promise of action. Theres a renewed recognition, rightfully, of this problem, and the need for change of culture that looks the other way because of who the offenders are. Whether its bill cosby, Harvey Weinstein, bill oreilly, marc halperin, roger ailes, kevin spacey, or one of our own. Its time to say no more. We have heard that before. Look at this headline from 1975. My name is anita f. Hill. In 1991, time declared a watershed debate on Sexual Harassment. Judge thomas and the woman who accuses him of Sexual Harassment, professor anita hill, have both been called to testify before the Senate Judiciary committee. 1995, senator bob packwood resi after charges of Sexual Misconduct. I him to leave. I think its better fohim and the senate. 1998, bill clinton impeache for lying about histionship with a young intern. Indeed, i did have a relationship with miss lewinsky that was not appropriate. In fact, it was wrong. Last year, donald trump confronted by a dozen n. Bggedheyll let you do it. Can do whatever youwant . Grab them by the [ bleep ]. You can do anything. Is this a watershed moment . Or will it pass like so many before . Lets talk about it with our panel. Eleanor holmes norton. Congr of califor Carly Fiorina, who was ce of of hewlettpackard, ran for president last year. And ronan farrow who wrote the article that started this all. Let me begin with you, representative norton. This is not just an issue for the rich, famous, powerful. It happens in every work place in america. And most women are afraid to come forward. Most women are afraid to come forward. And its even more difficult interestingly, to come forward in the hallways of the rich and the powerful. Because they are so powerful. Because they are so powerful. Its one woman against one very powerful man. But what we have seen here may be a watershed moment. Because we are seeing many women, for example in the roy moore matter, many women against one man. And thats what we need. This me too that has now encompassed not only congress but all through society may encourage more women understanding that there is strength in numbers. Congresswoman bono, this is something you experienced in congress . Thats right. I did. There is a whole gradient scale on Sexual Harassment up to inappropriate comments. In my case i was just on the receiving end of inappropriate comments on the floor of the house of representatives. I needed to say to my colleague, thats not cool. Knock it off. It took awhile to find my voice in order say that. And you were a member of congress. I was a member of congress. In my case, this was a peer. Even peers, in that case, it wasnt sexualizing me, necessarily. It was more about taking me down a notch in the eyes of my colleagues. So, um, again, Sexual Harassment takes many, many forms. Carly fiorina, i see you nodding your head to that. You had a powerful Facebook Post this morning. Said you started out as a secretary almost 40 years ago. Travelled the corporate ladder from the bottom to the top. I know this stuff has happened, because it happened, still happens to me. Yes, and think to answer your original question, will this be a watershed moment . It will only be a watershed moment if men decide to step forward. Women have been stepping forward. As you point out, for a really long time. What needs to happen now is the guys need to man up. The guys who know this is happening. Look, most men are good, decent, respectful men. But enough men are not. And all the other men around them know they are not. The truth is about every single one of these stories, whether its Harvey Weinstein or roger ailes, it doesnt matter who it is. Everybody knew. The women knew. And especially the men knew. And so i think its mens turn now to say, you know what . Were not going to respect someone who disrespects women. And when that starts to happen, if that starts to happen, then we will have reached a watershed moment. When its not just about the amazing and scandalous headlines. But when actually, the men who choose to abuse or disrespect women are confronted by another man who chooses not to let it go. And ronan farrow, you have written the stories for the new yorker. And more are coming as well. One of the first things you see is the men not only deny in the face of these questions, they do everything they can to quash the story. Everything they can. And theres a system around those men, george, that enables them to quash the stories. This is at the heart of the question is it a watershed moment . Not just are people brave enough to come forward . But as a society, are we brave enough to confront the reforms of the system . Jackie speier said congress has paid tens of millions of dollars in settlements over the last several decades. Now, what we need to see in terms of reform is exactly what legislators are putting on the table. Limitations on the use of secret settlements, for instance, that silence the allegations. Are we going to be able to change that . Its an open question. I think that surprised a lot of people. Were not sure how many of those settlements are about Sexual Harassment. But millions paid out over the last 20 years in secret. All settlements are secret. Thats typical of the system. There wasnt the kind of training, training is the wrong word for it, exposure to what Sexual Harassment is that is required in the private sector. And the federal sector. Theres a 30minute video that explains what Sexual Harassment is. I sent a letter and asked members to join me saying we dont have to wait for congress to say, everybody, every member of congress and every staff member has to look at this video because, george, i am convinced that many women even may not understand what some unwelcome advances are. And that they dont have to welcome them. Or they can turn them away. Or they can say, you know, youre not supposed to do this. That might stop some men. But, at the very least, congress has to be put on the same footing as the other branches of government and as the private sector. That seems to make a lot of sense. Congresswoman bono you said you knew how to handle it as a peer. There are a lot of young staffers on capitol hill. There are a lot of young staffers on capitol hill. To piggyback on what carly is saying. Its not just about the men. We knew it was the culture of capitol hill. We know its the culture of hollywood, women, too. I think we gave up the fight. I think we started saying, you know, as long as im okay, im not going to worry about ev seriously . Its a cultural very deeply rooted problem. And the women, too, both, we have to learn how to empower our younger staffers on the hill. Empower people in hollywood. But, women, too, have to step up. Because i actually realized that my silence was part of the problem, too, on the hill. Its not just the men. We all have to step in and change this now. And truly make it a watershed moment. Carly fiorina, perhaps step up at the ballot box, too. You have roy moore on the ballot. In the face of the seven new allegations. What the white house said this week about President Trump is that the election answered the allegations about the accusations against him . Democrats would say president clintons popularity answered his questions. I think the problem is, we politicize this always. It gets to be a question of our team versus their team. Look, again, for every republican who has behaved badly, and roy moore certainly has. And i clearly believe these women. And i think he should step aside. And he wont. For every republican who has behaved badly, theres a democrat thats behaved badly. For every famous man who has d badly, there is someone we have never heard of who is behaving badly right now. It cuts across eve and every walk of life. Its in the athletics. In coaches. In the churches. Its everywhere. Again, most men are good and decent and respectful men. But enough men are not. So we just have to decide. Women, and men, that this truly is not to be enabled. Not to be excused. And in particular that a man does not deserve respect from other men if he is disrespectful to women. Powerful point youre making. Ronan, you get the last word. Women came forward after years to tell you and the New York Times and other news outlets. Where does it go next . Well see multiple Law Enforcement agencies trying to pick up where a lot of people feel the ball was dropped in the case of Harvey Weinstein. As Carly Fiorina said this is much bigger than just politics. Than just hollywood. This is about the abuse of power. I spent a year of women telling me they felt there was a power imbalance that kept their allegations silent. Thank you all. Important conversation. Want to continue with republican senator Susan Collins of maine. Senator collins, thank you for joining us this morning. You heard our panel there. Weigh in, please. Do you think this is a moment where were going to see real change . I do. But i thought that there was one aspect tsed. And that is that the women who brin theyre attacked. President clintons accusers. E elaborate attempts thatvey weinstein went to in order to discredit his accusers. Stop, as well. E, we saw just recently, were seeing it right now. You mentioned president clinton. It certainly did happen then. We see roy moore calling his accusers liar. President trump, more than a dozen women came forward in the campaign, he says every single one of them are lying. He did say that. And, President Trump was not my choice for the republican ent. I did not support him in part because of the way that all of these reports about how he was treating women. He is president now. And, i am working with him. On some issues. But those allegations remain very disturbing. Can you work with roy moore . If he gets elected . Should he be investigated . Will you vote to expel . Well, first of all, my hope is that we wont get to point. He voters ofoy mools. I listened to his radio interview. Ible as more and more allegations me forward, th weight of evidence against him. I believe, based on my rution, that if he is elected, that we have no ch then, however, committee could have an investigation. And since i essentially would be a juror, if that happens, im not going to com could happen as a result of that investigation. But, i hope that the good voterst to send senator al franken is gbject to avestigat well, first, let me say that i believe the allegations and al franken has essentially admitted to them. Im talking about what the outcome would be if the committee proceeds with an inveation. E going to do so. But m to be both credible, disgusting, and appalling. And degr lets move on to the tax bill. Passed the Senate Finance committee. And a separate tax bill passed the house as well. In your me state by a group called not one penny. Lets take a look. Ers to find our way. In this economy. But the trump plan would leave us lost in the wilderness, just to pay for tax breaks for the wealthy. Thankfully, seins told us she would say no the tax breaks for the wealthiest. Can you vote for the bill that passed the Senate Finance committee . I want to see changes in that bill. And i think there will be changes. There are some provisions of the house bill that i like better. For example, the house retains the top rate of 39. 6 . For people who make 1 million or more a year. Thats a change that i would like to see be made in the senate bill. So, that we can skew more of the relief to middle income taxpayers. So some very good provisions in the senate bill. Such adds the doubling of the child tax cre making it refundable for people of low incomes. Theres a doubling of the standard deduction. Which means that a family making tax. So, there are provisions of both bills that i like. But i think the bill needs work. You cant vote for it as written . I havent reached that conclusion yet, because i think there are going to be further changes. But the biggest mistake was putting a provision from the Affordable Care act into the senate bill that is not in the house bill. And i hope that will be dropped or, that bills have been introduced by senator alexander and murray and bill nelson and myself will be adopted to mitt fwat the impact of those provisions. That was put in at the insistence of the president. He was tweeting about it last week. He seems to think its the best way to save money and get some of the partial repeal of obamacare. So if it stays i you against the bill . Its a problem for me if it is not mitigated. But there is a way to mitigate insurance premiums. I do want to point out, that vision, all it says is that a person who chooses not toecision. Thats very different from what we were faced with this past summer and fall when insurance was being taken away from people who wanted to be insured. The fact is that those fines are paid by overwhelmingly by people who make less than 50,000 a year. 80 . Of the people who pay the fines fall in that category. Im worried about the impact on premiums. Were going to need to pass legislation. I would like to see that done before we go to the tax bill. Unlikely the democrats will support doing that before the tax bill. One other feature of the Senate Tax Bill is that the Corporate Tax cuts are permanent. But the individual tax cuts are temporary. Again, thats not a provision that i like. The house made both of them permanent. I think that is a far better way to go. I also think the reduction in the business tax rate is too steep. And that we could go to 22 . And then use that money, which is about 200 billion, to restore the Tax Deduction fo stanl op taxes. That would really help middle income taxpayers. Sounds like you still have a lot of questions about the bill. Rentedessional budget off this week is that if the bill passes, theree at least 25 billion in medicare cutne dealt with as pa there arograms. The whole idea of acros or sequestrat nor senator collins, listening to you today, it sounds like change an awful lot before it can get your support. 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