I can tell you this is been going on for a very long time and im glad that people are speaking out about it. Its important to speak out about it nat hrls that, on off to college and its important that we have we are comfortable having Uncomfortable Conversations so that we can prot our young women and protect women in the work space. Chris lets talk about your work space, because it turns out that congress has protected itself with a much more challenging, much more cumbersome process then we see in the private sector. I want to put this up, i think people will be surprised. Victim who claims Sexual HarassmentCongress Must wait three months to file a complaint. At first submit to 30 days of counseling and another 30 days of mediation then wait another 30 days to seek a hearing, and congresswoman, it gets even worse than that, because if there is a settlement, its paid for by taxpayers not by the individual member of congress. Is this another case of the Old Boys Club network on capitol hill protecting itself . Is the only woman in the utah delegation, i have a little bit of a problem with that. Our office has made sure that they have taken all of the antiSexual Harassment training and i let out on that taking it myself. I think wemeea a this thisolu. Ly ad to say onehi ng i think important that we especially the things that are going on out there, that this is not being politicized, its not being used for personal gain because we normalize the situation if and when that happens. We have to make sure that we are not going out there doing anything that is going to further victimize people who have actually been hurt and humiliated by Sexual Harassment and sexual misconduct. Chris let me ask you about to specific cases, do youy moore the candidate in the special senate e alabama should step aside from that race to let a rightin candidate hold title pull that seat, and what you think should happen to senator al franken after the allegations against him this week . Im calling them all on the carpet. Thank all of them should take responsibility for their behavior. When you think about al franken and to think about judge moore you think about all the situations, th all different, and they all deserve due process and the people need to be able to have timeg able to do that today and 7 minutes on the sunday show, but i thinkant that we endrtable Uncomfortable Conversations and saying that this type of behavior is unacceptable. Chris let me ask you about one other person and whether or not he should be hel accountable and that is president trump, who has had very little to say about the judge roy moore case, but when it comes to al franken int picture he weighed in on that, the picture of franken appearing to grope. O the frankens which is really bad. Export of his hands go and pictures two three four, five and six while she sleeps . On the other hand, while reporters noted that while president trumps basis own allegation about him allegedly groping them, heres what a spokeswoman said. Think in one case ally senator fen has admitted wrongdoinpresident i think is a very clear distinction. Ces that satisfy you, the fact that ident trump has denied the allegations . N,ll o th ese completely different. I thinkeople need to take responsibility for their actions, not jryexcudy punied at notee emiopl where theses go awa die. Wag y thofe shot a race. Ab the elite trytog take cge m. 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I think upholding ourt important is player, but especially considering whats going on in th las couple of years, thein t political world and the media and entertainment world and what an important topic Sexual Harassment is for america generally that people li mcconnike gardner need to stand up and take a stand on Something Like this and say this is unceptable behavior, dont want it heh us. And theres no place for it in washington. Im torn about it. Obviously the voters will get their chance to vote for roy moore if they but there should be a candidate on theote e been accused of d mohris beca this is obviou difficult it ortant conversation. On t al ankengely piggish bdiomnsind girl enrters . I don personally. I thinkhatth hncdied at this point. There was a good piece that came thdes ct not azonnc. E poi ple oein revisiting bill clinton at happened inhe 90s a democry ta r now, but we neetoe clear thesend how important a they what ron direallyngs. Pseits llarynt t ta resigned. No. Timn bu. Was inves tihe chris jason,ineet ifcapa tohe said. He tweeted this. Ny ot repuoy moore and mitchts also spotting democrats. And the power here is the charge of hypocrisy. I hats why clinton billo th ly would be democra as tough on your ha topu theres. Immediately you areeepiec the New York Times , coming forward as a democratic congressman who said clinton should have been ousted. Of the keys for me is democrats wanting to say that we retained some moral authority in speaking on this issue as republicans try to impose. But i think at times as you and Jessica Tarlov were discussing a false equivalency between roy moore and even bill clinton. I just think that at the moment the politics chris i can understand the difference, the distinction between more and franken. How is there a distinction between more . Monica lewinsky was an intern, a young person and there was a huge power difference, no one was suggesting that she was beneath the age of consent. Im just saying in the one that he was impeached for, because he was impeached. Chris he was impeached for lying. He was impeached for lying about this issue and i think that its very for people, part of the response was no answer dollars were spent investigating and impeaching this man and now you have a situation here where some people, including roy moore, who want to point at Mitch Mcconnell and claim that there is a republican, much less democrats or the elite media from washington trying to tell the voters of alabama what to do. The bill clinton situation happened while he was in office and then lied about it. The president of the united states. I do think im glad that ing the debate. Im glad that this is becoming totally unacceptable on sides, and there should be a huge and massive political pricnot essenti tly Death Penalty for people who in this, they cannot rve at the hig government. A political Death Penalty. Aalis why should wethleve gover engage in this, whether its 40 years ago or whether it happened while you were in office. Chris thank you all. This is going to be continued no question aboutke a break here and we will see a little bit later. Up next,exclusive interview with treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin on whether a g. O. P. Task reform bill that will make it to the president s desk for christmas. Did your senator or congressman get elected by talking tough on the National Debt . Ir words . E yoing. Iladillibomona. S. Ebt to tax cuts shouldnt add to the National Debt. Chris coming up, the house passes a sweeping tax bill. I want to thank the members that made it possible, i want to think the president , his administration. I think our partners in the senate were doing their work as well. Chris but what will happen in the senate . It all starts with a wish. The lincoln wish list event is here. Sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down and a complementary first months payment. Chris republicans are moving with remarkable speed to pass the biggest overhaul of the u. S. Tax system in three decades. The house approved its plan this week as did the Senate Finance committee. The full senate will debate tax reform after members return from thanksgiving break. The hope is to send a compromise to the president by christmas. Joining us now to discuss the prospects for tax reform is the secretary of the treasury, Steven Mnuchin. Mr. Secretary, i want to start with some stomach democratic criticism of the tax plan, in this case by house leader nancy pelosi. Here she is. They throw a scrap to the middle class provide a banquet for the wealthy and for corporate america. Transform america in doing so. If we will not let that happen. Chris secretary mnuchin where is congresswoman pelosi wrong . Secretary mnuchin i just find that i fundamentally dont agree with her. This is about making businesses competitive, which is about creating jobs, and this is about a very significant middle income tax cut. Thats what this is all about. Chris well lets look at the analysis by the bipartisan joint committee on taxation, because heres what they said about the house bill. They say it delivers 80 of its cuts to corporations, businesses, and wealthy families families. This isnt a democratic partisan, this is congress own joint committee on taxation. Secretary mnuchin chris these numbers are very complicated, and it depends on how you allocate them. One of the things they are doing is they are taking a pass through allocation which is all about mediumsize businesses, they are allocating it back to the wealthy. Same thing with the Corporate Tax cuts. We dont believe that. If you look at this simply, and people look at their personal taxes going up or down, on the personal tax that, middle income people are getting cuts, and rich people are getting very little cuts or in very certain cases increases. Chris let me break that down, because it seems to me its a little bit more complicated than that. Heres one reason why the g. O. P. Tax plan, according to analyst favors the wealthy and corporations. I want to put this up on the screen. In the senhile therporate tax cuts are permanent, almost all provisions for individuals including rate cuts and the standard deduction expire, go away at the end of 2025. The result according to the joint committee on taxation bike 2027, this is the senate plan, anyone making less than 75,000 will see a tax hike, while those making more than 75,000 will see a tax cut. How do you respond to that . Secretary mnuchin the problem is that under the senate rules, using reconciliation theres very specific rules. We are changing from an International System to a territorial system. We need to make the Corporate Tax cuts permanent. You cant tell corporations they are going back to a worldwide system. Because of that, we were forced to phase out the personal tax side but nobody thinks thats going to be the case. Of Course Congress is going to vote down the road to keep these cuts. Its not about allocating cuts to the corporations. Its about we have to fix the business tax side and make it permanent. Chris but isnt it this is what critics are saying isnt it a statement of your priorities . The real reason that you make the individual cuts temporary and they expire 2025 is otherwise heoing to be to big. Some people say its a budget gimmick, but isnt it a statement of priorities that youusinermanent the individual cuts temporary . You could have done it exactly the opposite and made the individual cuts permanent and cut bac the buscuts make them temporary. Secretary mnuchin you cant do that. If you want to fix the business tax system and going from a worldwide system m, you cant switch back in ten years. This is all about the role ande calculate things. This isnt about the deficit because we think this is all about creating growth, and we will create Economic Growth town t this is techissues and the senate and the corporate side is about jobs. This is the tax cut and jobs bill. Th about makamerican businesses compeo we can bring jobs back home and ensure that dollars are invested in the u. S. Chris forgive me, but what youre basically sis we will make it isnt just adwid system. Youre also making the businesscuts, the reduction in the corporate rate from 35 to 20 . Youre making that permanent and to talk with great assurance about whats going to h in 2025. The fact is, you will not be an office in 25. Even if he is elected donald trump isnt going to be president in 2025. And in any case, the you have no idt the political situation is going to be lent or what the Economic Situation is going to be, and the deficit situation. When you just say of course they will extend it in 20u dont know nuchin i d know that. Maybe i will be working for president pence at the time, i dont know that. But we think its going to create growt and we will know by this eates growth or not. If it does create growth, we will have an incrediblenomy and an incredible tax system for businesses and creating huge amounts of jobs. If it doesnt, congress will deal with it at the chris again, not to belabor it, that meayou say, congress will deal with it at the, that the tax cuts for individuals which expire in 2025 may stay expired, may just go away. Secretary mnuchin we have a lot of cnce that congress will do the right thin ag priority for the moment is middle income tax cuts. This is a big cut for the middle income and it will create jobs and growth. An average family is making 75,000, a family of four they will get over 1,000 tax cut. This is very significant and its about creating a tax system thats competitive. We have the highest tax system in the world. How can our Companies Compete when their taxes are 35 and the rest of the world is in the low 20s. Chris i want to ask about another aspect of the senate bidu, e indi. It left the house bill, but the senate bill repeals the individual mandate in obamacare. Some people like it in the senate, some people dont. Susan collins has expressed concern about it. Lisa murkowski has expressed concern about it. Is that a bargaining chip . If you find its costing you more votes than its getting the new would support taking the individual mandate out . Secretary mnuchin let me first say this is all about getting t in the thats the objective. This isnt a bargaining chair. The president thinks we should get rid of it, i think we should get rid of it. Its an unfair tax on poor people. To think that you put a penalty on people who cant afford to buy medical policies is just fundamentally unfair. Thats what this is all about. Chris but it does have a political impact, it wasnt in your original proposal for tax reform. It has been added in afterwards. I guess what im asking is, u live with it if its taken out . Secretary mnuchin i think right now our objective is to keep it in. It provides a big tax cut for the middle class. It gets rid of the penalty. But we will work with the senate as we go through this. Whats critical here is we have the house to pass the thats a very big deal. We got it done. We got it out of the finance committee. It will be on the floor right after thanksgiving, we will get something to the president to sign this year. This is all about creating growth in the economy, and you can see whats going on. People out of a lot of confidence in the trump economic plan. You see that in the market, you see that in investing in this is aboutivering tax cuts to the american people. Chris you talk about getting it to the president by christmas, i want to pick up on that. I think you would agree right now the republican tax plan is hanging by a thread in the senate. Senator ron johnson of wisconsin has already said that he is a no vote. I know hes persuadable at least least. Five other republicans are on the fence. You are in danger of losing that alabama seat if roy moore looses in the special election on december 12th. If he stays in the race and doesnt clear the way for a stronger candidate doesnt that increase the jeopardy for tax reform . Secretary mnuchin are not going to speculate on the race but what i will tell you is i met with senator corker this week, i met with senator johnson, senator collins. We are having very good discussions with all of them. We want to make sure we incorporate their views, and we are comfortable where we are in this process. This is about having discussions and making sure we get something to the president to sign. Chris finally i have to ask you about something that has gotten a lot of attention this week. You and your wife went this week to the bureau of engraving and printing to check out the first dollar bills with your signature on it, which im sure was exciting. The pictures went viral. Esther secretary, some folks and im looking at the picture here which you cant see, say that you two look like two villains from a james bond movie. Im sure youve heard that. I guess my question is, what would you thinking . Secretary mnuchin i heard that, i never thought i would be quoted is looking like villains from james bond. I guess i should take that as a compliment that i look like a villain in a great successful james bond movie. But let me just say i was very excited of having my signature on the money. Its obviously a great privilege and a great honor and something im very proud of bein