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Poor. he doesn't have a joint headquarters. at this stage it's hard for me to imagine they're going to be able to do an integrated air/land/sea campaign. but again, the ukrainians are a smaller force. the russians have enormous momentum. and putin will never give up until his army has been largely destroyed in its effectiveness. and he's put 60% of the russian armed forces into ukraine, trying to take over this land. >> and general, you may have heard the foreign minister of ukraine suggesting that if russia hits inside a nato country, ukraine would fight so that nato would not have to. if nat...

They're creating an exit ramp if the russians want to take it. i think this is being well handled. at some point putin will have to decide, what does he want? >> putin is extraordinarily effective at trolling the united states, trolling the west. he did it, of course, in the 2016 campaign. he was on our front page of world newspapers over the next four years. he's once again seized the national spotlight. not bad for a country with about $2 trillion gdp. their gdp that's 1/10th of what the united states and european union is together. but it's one thing to troll the west for headlines, and it'...

Between children ages 5 all the way up to 17. we have a significant problem. there's a lot of holes in that story of having this population level immunity that those who aren't vaccinated can basically derive benefit from. >> do you think the parents of those children can ever be convinced or have we just reached a point this is what we're going to have to live for? >> just this week the cdc advisory meeting it was a review of the myocarditis cases in children ages 5 to 11 and it was remarkable that there are only 12 cases in nearly 9 million doses and it's much less than 1/10 of the rare case...

Through new york, hopefully they'll be just where london has had it and where south africa has already been. >> yeah. and i think the reason the san francisco data was fascinating to me is when the u.s. records 750,000, a million cases a day, you know, that is a fraction of the actual number of people that have covid or contracted covid on that day. i don't know if it's 1/5, 1/10 or 1/20, but lots more people are getting this thing than are presenting and the positive part of that, particularly if these are asymptomatic cases, is those are conferring antibody protection that builds up an immun...

Getting covid more severely, or is it a mix? >> the children we have in the hospital right now is a pretty healthy group. these are not kids with major underlying medical conditions. and so far, at least, the children that we're seeing are not quite as ill as the children we saw during the delta surge. of the 11 children that we have in the hospital at the moment, only 1 is in the intensive care unit. so that's a bit of good news. we'll have to see if this bears out over time, you know, it has been speculated that omicron may be a milder illness than delta. but even if that is the case, just t...