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Well. >> you know we have been talking about democrats who have been battling each other, they have been battling each other over numbers, 3.75. 1.75. 3.2. 1.78. that's one thing talking about how big the safety net bill should be. most united states senators have stood up and condemn the january 6th attack. republicans in the house have not republicans have stood up for the rule of law and constitutional norms and liberal democracy. you want to talk about a real

In investments around climate change, that is a significant piece of legislation. and in this past year between the american rescue plan and the bipartisan infrastructure bill, we've already accomplished a lot of president biden's legislative agenda. so while frustrated tonight, i remain optimistic that we will get this done. >> now, when you listed things there, you did not include the child tax credit. i don't know if that was on purpose or not, senator, but i mention that only in the context of, yes, $1.75 trill upion is a massive piece of legislation. but if you want to do it the way manch...

Like we're under 1.75. joe manchin isn't stupid and he can do math. in west virginia they can do math. he knows the bill, if it's funded for 10 years is 3.9 trillion. cbo said 3.4 trillion. he won't vote for a 3.4 trillion dollar bill period, end of story. >> harris: he knows the voters know it, too. it makes him smart and sticky issue for the democrats. >> i can negotiate a deal in five minutes. simple. >> harris: you said something before we move onto the next thing you said something that i thought was particularly obvious there that people may be missing on the hill. that is in the progres...

Build back better negotiations. every time i talk to a member on the house side, they're in the same boat as the rest of us. i text, like what do you know? i don't know, what does joe manchin want? >> we have done our part. we sent a bill. we compromised. we started at $3.5 billion, and we need him to compromise. he said he has the 50 votes. he says we want a ten-year number, we don't want it for just one year. fine, we had the ten-year number, that was the $3.5 trillion. you can't have it both ways. >> here's what he's saying. this is the latest. he's giving you a budget because for some reas...

President biden and senator joe manchin went pretty badly during the course of this week. do you get a sense senator manchin is trying to back out of a deal with the white house? i think the assumption has been we would get there. maybe some time next year. do you think there's any scenario in which it doesn't get passed, at least not at 1.75 as it is at the moment? >> i think there's folks that are concerned about some of the aspects of build back better, and i think nobody is locked in including joe or anybody else. fixing through negotiations and i think that's what it will take to get ever...