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We were number one by far over saudi arabia and russia. number one by far. i had the pipelines going. amazingly, i ended the russian pipeline. i got along well with russia. i got along well with putin. they weren't happy with trump. i can tell you that. biden opened up this big mess of pipeline over europe. you heard it a thousand times. we are energy independent, no longer. i was so proud of that. first time really in history, they say 75 years. but i don't about believe we were ever energy independent. we were doing so much. it was $1.87 a gallon. if you look at the numbers. now, yesterday t...

And then inflation has kicked in. it remember this, with energy going up like that, you know, you have a product and you need trucks to deliver it, you need energy. with energy being doubled and tripled, what was just a few months ago when we were there, $1.87 per gallon, now it's over $5 per gallon. that's a lot more than 50%. when energy goes up like that, sean, everything's affected in terms of inflation. it has a huge inflationary impact on this country. i was here when jimmy carter -- when jimmy carter went out and did what he was doing. a lot of it was similar but on a much smaller scale...

And then inflation has kicked in. it remember this, with energy going up like that, you know, you have a product and you needs trucks to deliver it, you need energy. with energy being doubled and tripled, what was just a few months ago when we were there, $1.87 per gallon, now it's over $5 per gallon. that's a lot more than 50%. when energy goes up like that, sean, everything's affected in terms of inflation. it has a huge inflationary impact on this country. i was here when jimmy carter -- when jimmy carter went out and did what he was doing. a lot of it was similar, but on a much smaller sca...

High, your reaction to that aspect of the economy alone? >> so energy-independence was one of my greatest achievements, i thought. i think the vaccine, energy-independence, what we did on the border, frankly afghanistan would've been great. we would've been out and we would've been out with dignity and pride and it would've worked out great, none of this stuff going, there is no -- again, it is not the concept of leaving, it is the way they withdrew. it was not even possible to believe. but gasoline as you know is $1.87 when i was leaving office, and now it's going to be up to over $5 very soo...

Top of it at 5.4%. that's a 15 year high and your reaction to that aspect of the economy alone. >> so energy independence was one of my greatest achievements i thought. i thought the vaccine, energy independence and what we did on the border, frankly afghanistan would have been great. we would have been out with dignity and pride and it would have worked outou great. but again it's not the concept of leaving, it's the way they withdrew. it was not even possible to believe. but gasoline as you know was $1.87 when i was leaving office and now it's going to be up. and i talk about negotiators, th...