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How do you feel about this election that's different from past elections? >> speaking, you know, with as a woman, i think we're all very, very angry at everything that the administration is doing and not doing to help and support us. so i know at least my large village is gender specific on their anger towards what's going on. >> joining us now, former governor of vermont and former chairman of the democratic national committee, howard dean. also with us is author lauren leader. she's the co-founder and ceo of "all in together." thank you both for being on. you howard, i want to start with

Nationally. we were talking mid observation, post kavanaugh, about the republicans closing the enthusiasm gap. states like arizona coming back into the mix for them where mcsally didn't just have a chance there, but was pulling ahead in states like that. and now maybe after the package bombs, trump's response to that, maybe after pittsburgh, trump's response to that, maybe in light of trump's decision to lean in on the caravan on these hot b t button cut tu button cultural issues, that could resort back to october where you might see something else. >> you susan mentioned missouri a couple of ...

Democratic party. they may not even be called democrats. the values are the same and they are great american traditional values in many ways. >> right. although i'll say i'm in the suburban districts that are so key to, you know, democrats winning the house, places like suburban new jersey and kansas city. i don't think those left leaning groups necessarily resonating with those women as much. it's a lot of what the guest in the earlier segment said is anger in general and looking for an outlet. we have sort of skipped overbey sick political education and engagements and gone straight to tryin...

That pocket. he is. you know why? because he has no command of the facts, no command or understanding of what the constitution is about. he basically admitted to us that he doesn't read. he can't read. he takes things in mostly through hearing it, through watching it, through listening to it, through being a part of it. he has a command of playing the media. that is his sweet spot. that is exactly where he's comfortable because he can use evil ways of manipulating people's thoughts, their beliefs and tapping into racism with his command of the media. >> there is no doubt that -- it was actuall...

Day, things to float into the atmosphere, things to rev people up. i hope he's not going to send 15,000 troops to the border and put them down there for a caravan that may arrive with a few hundred people in two months. >> if anyone would know that this is a scam being perpetrated by the president based on the fact that there's a dwindling group of truly desperate people still hundreds of miles away from the border, en route to the border, if anyone would know that it was a scam as well as a horrible and expensive misuse of the secretary, it would be secretary of defense mattis. and i would ho...