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Putin's preoccupations, what might happen on his borders should that eastward nato expansion continue. and you heard it in that meeting yesterday with the defense minister talking about an american military company. he said that was using mercenaries and acquired chemical weapons and was planning provocations on ukrainian soil in a couple cities east of the country. so there are genuine fears on both sides ratcheting up. a glimmer of hope in the conversation that will begin in january, isa. >> we shall see what comes out in the conversation in the new year. melissa bell, great to see you. than...