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times. >> justice jackson: no. i'm not going to that. let me just say so your point is that there is no ambiguity with having a list and not having president in it with having a history that suggest that they were really focused on local concerns in the south with this conversation where the legislators actually discussed you are saying there is no they vote. >> justice jackson: i'm talking about the barred office part of this. >> jason murray: barred office is if you want to include everybody first presidential electors they are not offices so they wouldn't fall under any office. se...