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Help bring the precipitation to the northeast sides of china. shanghai, maybe an additional 200, 250 millimeters of rainfall over the next 48 hours. that could lead to localized urban flooding. here's the three-day forecast for shanghai. 100% probability of rainfall. this particular system, this typhoon was responsible for setting an all-time record high temperature in hong kong. 36.3 degrees and that is all thanks to the heat that starts to encompass these large typhoons just like this one. >> and it seems the storms are just getting stronger and stronger. >> it could be affiliated with a str...

136.3% of their overall surplus. that gives us tremendous leverage to deal with the chinese but only we use it and we haven't been willing to use it. >> neil: the argument against tariffs is be a careful half you wish for because it leads to other countries having tariffs and countries friendly to it slipping on tariffs and before you know it you have a rigged trading, highly tack tacticsed system. >> if you're an account deficit country like we are you don't worry about trade wars. we have to do something, neil, because right now we're bleeding. this is the biggest transfer of technology and ...

South koreans have confidence in our ability to defend them. up to now, they have lost that confidence. jenna: why is that? >> the u.s. policy has been ineffective over decades. the north koreans have longer range missiles and nuclear arsenal and we have not been able to stop them. jenna: so how do we change direction on the course we have been on through several different administrations that allows the north koreans to continue to operate as a rogue nation. >> the key to that is separating beijing. the way to do that is yes, it would be nice just to talk to the chinese. but i think that we h...

Agencies and we know that microsoft has been infiltrated, apple has been looked at and google has pulled out of china in part because of this. what are they going after? >> they're going after everything, not just the national security establishment. they're going after companies for information so that their state enterprises can better compete against us. going after critical infrastructure and also the institutions of a free society. ngo's, charities, advocacy groups. the free press, new york times, wall street journal. >> clayton: quickly what can we do? >> use our economic leverage agains...

Jenna: but, you know, the american people also hear this, we also hear that china owns all our debt and we depend on china for so much, and if for some reason we got into a conflict with china, our economy would be in trouble, and since they own our debt, it complicates things. your thoughts? >> yeah. they need us so much more than we need them. last year china's merchandise trade surplus against the u.s. was at least 136.3% of their overall surplus. that means they've got an economy which is geared towards selling things to them, we do not have an economy that's geared to selling things to th...