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john avlon is cnn contributor and author of "wing nuts, how the lunatic fringe is hijacking america" which is a suitable title for our discussion tonight. thanks to all of you. mark, let me start with you. you are the author of the report. it focuses on so-called patriot groups which you describe as conspiracy-minded anti-government and on the radical right. in 2012, you looked at 1360 so-called patriot groups on the radical right, an increase of 813% sce 2008 right before president obama took office. but lots of questions are coming up today about how you define these groups. give me some sense of how you define these patriot extremist right wing groups. >> sure, ali. what the groups are are the very same groups that we all used to call the militia groups back in the 1990s.

helping thousands of companies simplify how work gets done. how's that for an encore? with xerox, you're ready for real business. the number of hate groups in the united states is on the rise. one variety in particular, a study just released by the southern poverty law center counts 1,360 so-called patriot extremists in 2012. this number's up from 7%, it's up 7%, i should say from 2011. most of these groups are anti-government groups. anti-government militias, to be specific. these are people who feel the government will strip them of their guns and liberties. and one of those hate groups is the ku klux klan. so when there was a sighting of a person wearing a white hood and robe in ohio campus, classes were suspended while police have not been able to confirm the

you are the author of the report. it focuses on so-called patriot groups which you describe as conspiracy minded anti-government and on the radical right. in 2012, you looked at 1360 so-called patriot groups on the radical right, an increase of 813% since 2008 right before president obama took office. but lots of questions are coming up today about how you define these groups. give me some sense of how you define these patriot extremist right wing groups. >> sure, ali. what the groups are are the very same groups that we all used to call the militia groups back in the 1990s. they more normally describe themselves as patriot organizations or christian patriot organizations. you know, essentially what holds these groups together, what kind of makes them a movement, is that they all subscribe to a conspiracy theory which goes more or less as follows. they believe

do the findings add up? "outfront" tonight, mark potoch is author of the report and senior fellow at the law center. john avlon is cnn contributor and author of "wing nuts, how the lunatic fringe is hijacking america" which is a suitable title for our discussion tonight. thanks to all of you. mark, let me start with you. you are the author of the report. it focuses on so-called patriot groups which you describe as conspiracy-minded anti-government and on the radical right. in 2012, you looked at 1360 so-called patriot groups on the radical right, an increase of 813% since 2008 right before president obama took office. but lots of questions are coming up today about how you define these groups. give me some sense of how you define these patriot extremist right wing groups. >> sure, ali. what the groups are are the very same groups that we all used to call the militia groups back in

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