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You have to serve th punishment if you ar committing a crime of this country. that's what we are based on. jen, i want to ask you about some of that you actuall tweeted out yesterday and yo said we should be focusing o liability and calling for demonstration in a way that coach anywhere 86th. i think a lot of people picked up on that same point readin the former presidents calls fo protest. can you elaborate more on that for us >> first of all, i think it' gonna be sadly disappointe because i think he doesn't hav a very good grip on the public and on public opinion. a lot of their supporters i...

Declaring a national emergency doesn't necessarily ensure that government will be up and running, even if the president were to declare that. >> look, there are some republicans who hope that is face-saving maneuver. declaring a national emergency and reopening the government really would be a retreat that looks like an advance. it would allow him to claim he's escalating the dispute when in fact he would be backing down. i suspect that's why someone like lindsey graham, at least part of the reason why someone like lindsey graham is so assertively advocate ing for th position. >> ron brownstei...

Candidate? >> why would he think about it? >> i'm unaware of any patrol showing him to be the frontrunner. the national surveys i have seen put him in the 7th position. not bad, he's in the top ten. which poll is he leading? >> well, take a look just for example, the one that came out on thursday. the economist has him leading in the national poll. >> i'm going to look it up. michael cohen, i'm appreciative you would be here. next time send your boss. >> it's a pleasure. i sure will. right now he's busy on the trail. i understand. next governor george pataki hasn't been afraid to call out tr...

A lot of kricof criticism of th position of nonnegotiation, the president saying he won't negotiate. is that an appropriate response? >> the president doesn't have the option not to negotiate over the debt ceiling because the debt creel which go is different than the government shutdown doesn't emanate from the presidency. he can't wave the presidential wand and say i'm doing this without negotiation. i think the problem here is that republicans got caught in a government shutdown trap. that's always been up popular. what is very popular is to say if we're going to raise the debt ceiling which...