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But it protects us as americans if they don't test. will they go beyond that and get rid of all their nukes? that's a goal that we've always talked about. i just don't believe it will ever happen. i think north korea will always hold on to them. >> sandra: moving on to venezuela. we know the president will be on the world stage. but this morning vice president mike pence has been meeting with the opposition leader juan guaido and the columbian president and about to deliver remarks shortly. all options are on the table there as mike pompeo has described it, including sanctions and more. we'll ...

Wondering what can the united states do here? mike pompeo the secretary of state says all options are on the table. obviously increased sanctions are an option. to what extent do you want to see the united states act there? >> that is such an important question because the united states has been crucial, the sanctions, the support, the humanitarian aid that is brought to the venezuela people has been on point and we cannot thank them enough but it is time for action. the action, as all the options are on the table, are very concise and very, very precise. the venezuelan president guaido has to...

This whole thing down, put our military at risk, et cetera, et cetera, his comments paraphrased. on the other side the democrats say the republicans are willing to shut down the government in order to keep people who were brought here to this country as children, many as babies, through no fault of their own, to throw them out of the country so this is, everything else flying around, we're talking right now, about daca. we're talking about the d.r.e.a.m.ers. as joe said, according to one poll this morning, an 87/11 issue for the american people watching this debate. >> first of all, hello, eve...