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We turn to our next guest, neera tanden, the former senior adviser to president obama and hillary clinton. she's the president and ceo of the center for american progress. neera, let's take a look, another look at that cnn poll, the latest poll of the democratic primary field because it's kind of fascinating. joe biden at 29%. a jump of 7 points in that poll. bernie sanders holding steady at 15. elizabeth warren holding steady at 14. kamala harris down to 5%. a drop of 12 points. pete buttigieg holding steady at 5. beto o'rourke holding steady at 3. none of the other candidates gets more than ...

Round of polling? >> you know, i think one way to look at what is happening is that essentially this is the contours of the race. then we have these debates which create a flash point, but this might be the equilibrium until we really get to iowa. polls in iowa are different than these polls, than the national polls, and iowa can change the calculus pretty dramatically for the national polls. we saw that in 2007. we definitely saw that in 2007/2008. we saw that in 2015/2016. candidates who can surge in iowa can really change the trajectory of how they do nationally. so, you know, my take here ...

Of the support that we got from the riders. so we wanted to do something for active responders. and college scholarships just seemed to be the way to go. we've given away 422,000 dollars in college scholarships. >> wow. >> how old were you the first time that you remember being involved in this and what is it like now today for you? >> so i was 1 when the attacks actually happened. i was born in 2000. the attacks were in 2001. and i was too young to go on the first few rides obviously. but i started going every year in 2007. and basically in 2007/2008 i would go to somerset, to arlington, i wo...

Which means there are co conspirators. other individuals that southern district is looking at. wouldn't be surprised if we didn't see additional indictments coming dune for those individuals who aided and abetted him in the sex trafficking ring that we learned so much about in the last couple weeks. and there's also the civil suits. just because he's dead, victims won't have their day in court in term ozf being able to confront him in a criminal trial. but civil claim can be made against his estate. we already know there are does nlz of civil lawsuits that have been filed and we should expect ...

Alleged victims will also be speaking during this bail hearing or might have already spoken. how might that affect the judge's decision and how unusual is it for that to happen during a bail hearing? >> it's extremely unusual during a bail hearing to have victims or witnesses talk or testify beyond a lead detective or fbi agent who might want to relate incriminating facts to give the judge context about the ruling he or she will have to make. stephanie brings up a really important point that i think we should address, and that is that epstein's defense attorneys are arguing that the non-prosec...