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What do you think about that, secretary castro? >> well, i mean, let's go back to last night. what i said was that i thought vice president biden should learn the lessons of the past when it comes to immigration. now, i don't think you're going to find somebody that's been more effusive in his praise about barack obama than i have been over the years. as somebody that served him in his cabinet. i said that last night. i said, you know, when trump is trying to take credit for the economic recovery that belongs to barack obama, not only the economy but in so many other ways, health care and so f...

Politically, in the long run -- >> the judiciary maybe? >> what's that? >> the judiciary for him. conservative judges. >> we're doing what he would consider a high? yeah, i would say definitely gorsuch would have to be the absolute highest of anything that's happened to him since he's been elected. >> don't i get to answer? >> you already said the booming economy. quickly, if you can. >> i think the turnaround in the economy is for sure the high and the low, gragree with you. >> the turnaround in the economy happened in 2009/2010. >> we've seen a big acceleration. -- one statistic that just ca...

For individuals. and. >> and those companies are already required by law to keep the premiums at a certain level. what this was was essential a pay-off to the insurance companies to support obamacare in the first place back if 2009/2010. it's been a terrible policy. only at the very end of the last segment that you saw was the comment about how they're unconstitutional. this money was never appropriated. i was in the house in 2014 when i voted to give paul ryan the ability to file a lawsuit on this because these monies -- >> but aren't you concerned if you remove these subsidies a lot of these...

Are talking about real problems, real people, people watching us concerned about their health, their mothers, their grandmothers, i mean, real stuff, that people in politics say we are going to repeal and replace, we are going to make it better and caught people's hopes up and faith up and they really didn't have a replacement in mind, they had no policy there. >> well, this is the thing that i think is so sad about this entire conversation is that people are so exhausted with the politics as unusual as you just mentioned. what's really interesting is if you go back to 2009/2010 when the whole...

The underpants bomber, tried to bring down a plane over detroit christmas day 2009. he developed and sent out from yemen two printer bombs that were addressed to the united states. they were intercepted, thanks to the help of saudi intelligence, but they were so sophisticated. one was intercepted in the uk. the police here had it in their hands and they couldn't figure out if it was a bomb it was so sophisticated. so the concern is -- and there's intelligence that emerged in 2014 that al qaeda was sharing this kind of information and technology with their associates, with al qaeda and other pl...