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>> what will it be. >> but look, i am going to make a slightly different argument here, i am going to say that bernie brings a ton of strength to this race, which means basically because of fundraising that will keep him in the top tear of this campaign and probably throughout the entire year. so he will, he will force the conversation, in his direction, and i mean a lot of these candidates have already adopted his positions on issues, that he was espousing in 2016. >> however -- >> that's a problem for him. >> because in, they are not adapting to a multi-candidate race. in 2016, against hilla...

Things you think they might have done wrong but which doesn't reach the level of criminal behavior. i think that's where he's sort of caught in between. >> let me give you the flip side of that. i don't know if this should apply, logic and washington should not be in the same sentence. here's jim hahn to your point. well, comey screwed up when it came to hillary clinton, so why should we be protective now? >> they crossed that bridge a long time ago when fbi director jim comey decided to tell the american public not once, but twice, that then-candidate hillary clinton was under investigation, ...

Graphics that shows either the current field or the potential field, take your pick. it's an enormous list of people. now, bernie deserves -- bernie sanders deserves credit frankly for pushing the debate in the democratic party in a certain direction. i mean, they are talking about the policies that he brought up when he ran in 2016. however, that means that it's much, much more crowded. and i do think there are some questions about how his impact in the race is going to be felt and part of that is the fact he embraces this label of democratic socialism. president trump talked about socialism ...

Timeline, to figure out what roger knew when he knew it. and i think that is going to be more important in the long run than perhaps we might have thought at the very beginning. >> betsy, final thought on all the above. >> the important thing to remember with the mueller probe is that it's simultaneously a criminal investigation and a counterintelligence investigation. there are two different silos. as these indictments come out, and if any future mueller indictments come out, they will cast significant light on the ways the russians try to influence the election process in 2016. however, muel...

Relationships and other kinds. that may temper the response. whatever it is, it's a very subdued response. at a time when he needs to be standing up. for decency and international community. for holding the saudis accountable if this has occurred. and hopefully over the next couple days this will clarify. >> ambassador jordan, you're not the only wup saying that. senators signed a letter saying the same thing. they want to invoke the magnitsky act. we'll have you back as we learn more. >> thank you. appreciate the perspective. >> when they go low we go high. remember that? from michelle obama....