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Hearts we werent going to kill them. That was training. That kind of training helped prepare them for the treatment that they got. John mccain was tortured. What they did to him in the hanoi hilton and other Prisoner Of War Sites in North Vietnam was torture. Weve never done that kind of thing. Never condoned it. Some of our allies may have done it but we department. The bottom line is, when congress made these things illegal, theyre going to stay illegal until Congress Changes it. Neil when i hear the president said as he did today in this Press Conference and that he would defer i hope i hav...

The president still stands by nato. he didn't say that. she did, that he said that. i don't know what the true case is. how do you feel that is going along and how you feel europe is reacting or whether easing up now on it's initial concerns about the president? >> look, i know for a fact that nike flynn has had discussions on what i call nato 2.0. we were quiet -- we talked about this a little bit. there's a group of us quietly working to advise the chairman of the joint chiefs, a guy name james mattis was the validater. we've been looking at this for a while. one of the recommendations we ma...