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they were privy to, is potentially formidable. it includes former secretary of state, mike, who we first reported last night is expected to sit down with the house committee, perhaps soon as this week. also former treasury secretary, steven mnuchin, we have learned today that he has already been interviewed by the committee. sources also tell us that because uses are underway for the former national intelligence director, john ratcliffe, for a sit down with him. then there is former acting boss chief of staff, mick mulvaney, we spoke with earlier on the program. he was spotted on the...

Fact that they were even raising this, as a possibility, think about what it means, you are removing a president because you are declaring him mentally unfit to be in office. now, we have learned subsequently from a junior 6 hearings testimony of cassidy hutchinson and others that there was real fear, that that option could be pursued. they were using that as a way to pressure trump to come out of finally to give a statement. >> sean henry in a tex i think to mark meadows, also said -- maybe kelly mick mcelhaney, i can't remember who -- the 25th amendment talk is real. obviously, it fizzled ou...

Federal prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst. natasha bertrand, msnbc contributor. natasha also just interviewed andrew mccabe. and david french, senior writer for the "national review" is with us on this presidents' day. glen, you're a former doj insider. your reaction to the talk about the 25th amendment. >> the 25th amendment talk, as pete williams said, has been discussed before. i don't think it is inappropriate for our high government officials and law enforcement and the intelligence communities to be talking about what kind of mechanisms, lawful, constitutional mechanisms do we have if it i...

Supportive of this decision. i think especially looking ahead, something that republicans have said over and over again is they're afraid of the precedent this sets for future presidents and how democrats will be able to use this to invoke their own policy ideas whether that's over gun control issues or climate change. >> yeah. again, mitch mcconnell was very concerned about that but i guess now he's not. betsy, steph, thank you so so much. president trump's performance friday generated big headlines. you're going to hear what he said that made some link it to the 25th amendment talk. said tha...

He knows very well that the 25th amendment is designed to have a situation where you can relieve the presidency when the president is truly incapacitated, i'm talking, like, comatose, and so there's just not even a moment's chance that rod rosenstein would sit there and contemplate this, you know, bloodless coup of using the 25th amendment to get rid of a sitting president. it's just not even conceivable. >> it's interesting, though, because "the new york times" offered some real detail on the 25th amendment talk. at one point, putting it this way. he, rosenstein, did tell mr. mccabe, andrew m...