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Spread conspiracy theories about hillary clinton's health in 2016. i mean, this might actually, you know, work for -- for folks in his base. he will not suffer. >> yes. and pelosi i think partly because she is an effective leader of democrats in the house remains a fruitful target for republicans. and i don't mean in this kind of trashy way, i just mean as a political adversary. she's from san francisco but she's smarter than the parity of her. she is a san francisco liberal but she's the one who told the democratic caucus, let's keep investigating and not actually impeach. it's not a bad stra...

These people are trying to cast themselves as rebels and the resistance, trying to look good in history. they aren't going to do anything to donald trump. they said they thought about the sort of constitutional baker act that they thought about 25th amendmenting him but they said, let's not have a constitutional crisis. we want our tax cuts. isn't it true that whoever this is, they're not going to do anything about donald trump? >> they're not. and, joy, this won't surprise you, having been a political operative most of my life. i capital tell you how many times i've tried to get anonymous op-...