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In and say, oh, 85.7% of the cases we win. and trump says, no, no, that's -- that's wrong. and they say call your trade representative. these are the facts. no. trump is just -- he closes down. will not listen. it is the absence of an open mind. i mean, you know so well that anybody in any business or institution, it's very important that they grow and learn and listen. the capacity to really listen is very important in a leadership decision-making role. >> stay with me. next on "gps," bob woodward will tell me why trump's senior most officials describe something as the big problem with presid...

About unfair trade practices and the aides come in and say 85.7% of the cases we win and trump says no, no, that's -- that's wrong and they say call your trade representative these are the facts. no. trump just closes down, will not listen. it is the absence of an open mind. you know so well that anybody in any business or institution very important they grow and learn and listen. the capacity to really listen is very important in a leadership making role. >> stay with me next on gps. bob woodward will tell us why trump's senior most officials describe something as the big

And trump says no, that's not true. and they said bring in your trade representative. call him. ask him. trump, i don't want to. i won't do that. he closes his mind to the information that makes it possible for the president to weigh argues and data. and there is one point where he is literally saying -- they're saying where did you get these ideas? i've had them for 30 years. >> yeah. >> that's it. you're wrong. that's it. now that's got to -- if you are the most ardent trump supporter, that has got to give you pause that the white house and the government are being managed this way. one of t...

Having bad policy ideas or being unable to learn things quickly is worrying, that you would want somebody more capable in the job. but there are suggestions that it's worse than that. at one point you say the president is emotionally overwrought, mercurial and unpredictable. i worry in particular about the emotionally overwrought part of it. do you mean by that he is out of control? >> no. i mean by when confronted with evidence. for instance, there is a scene in the book where he starts talking about the world trade organization, which is an organization that actually gives us great leverage ...

Call him. ask him. trump, i don't want to. i won't do that. he closes his mind to the information that makes it possible for the president to weigh arguments and data. >> and, david marinas, the president seems incapable of being embarrassed at the exposure of his own ignorance in those scenes. >> you know, that was so classic bob woodward, the 85.7%. you know, he's relentless -- he's very cautious, never getting ahead of the facts, but releaptless in t relentless in the pursuit of them. but yes, there have been a few politicians in the modern age who seem incapable of embarrassment or guilt, ...