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Senate? >> well, it would be the record that they would prepare, the 302s would then be made available to the senate. it would give them a basis to have their questions. in fact, the republicans were pretty brutal with anita hill in using them to cross-examine her because she said things in the hearings that she had not told the fbi. and they tried to make that out as she was lying because she hadn't told the fbi. that didn't work very well as cross-examination, but it was certainly an effort. >> if the president refuses to go to the fbi, how big a stain is this on him? >> well, i think the wo...

We are not fair about this. >> martha: that's a great point. one last question just to do quickly. president trump in an interview yesterday said that he believes that releasing the documents on the russian investigation, the fisa application and the 302s, could be a crowning achievement of the term presidency. what do you think about that? >> i think the president is obsessed with the investigation. this is probably something he should have done before this. i don't know why they've held it up. if we have to get some access to what was the basis of these fisa applications, what was the basis ...

Forth are a disgrace to our nation. i want transparency and so does everybody else. congressional committees came to me and they wanted this, and i did it based on their request. but i think it's good thing. we should open it up for people to see. >> martha: items not going to happen overnight, is what we're hearing, but it will be pretty interesting when the never-revealed e-mails and text messages of the early stages of the russia probe are in the process of being declassified and released. intelligence officials are scrambling to comply with the sweeping order that includes the fisa warrant...

To focus in on a grand jury of the panel. we do not know what is going on. we do not know what are in the unredacted pages, the 10-12, the 30-74, we do not know anything in the 302s, everybody says it is blockbuster. >> here's what we do now. we know from the text revealed by strzok and page yesterday that we now are at a different place. the walls are closing in, but they are not closing in on the president. they are closing in on the fbi and the department of justice under president obama. those text messages by strzok and page, which reveal an illegal media strategy to illegally and crimina...

We expect we might get the unredacted fisa warrants, 302s, the totality of strzok and page communications and mccabe, now baker, others getting back into the mix. and what about the fbi using unsecured devices? we start where we began, with hillary. >> absolutely, the fbi auto prosecuted sulfur doing the exact same thing that hillary clinton did, and that is putting sensitive information on an unsecured device that jeopardizes national security. but look at what has happened this week. now we know for sure that not only was the trump-russia collusion in case a hoax, based on fabricated evidenc...