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Fund alone. there's another fund, i want to talk about the other fund in the next hour maybe but in this fund alone $38.6 billion that is available for these green energy loans to get the jobs going. turns out they've created about 3,545 jobs or so. $20 billion went out the door. so if you take $20 billion that they've loaned out, they've created 3500 and some odd jobs, that comes to $5 million per job. >> so wait a second, 40 different projects. all that money. and the government says, these numbers, 3,445 permanent jobs. you know what they've come back with and said has the administration, w...

Created. but the white house is now challenging that report. stu varney, anchor of "varney & company" on the fox business network. stu, let me just ask you this, put this in perspective for our viewers who have not been following this that closely. the between jobs program which has been a priority of the obama administration, it's never been more scrutinized than it is right now in part because of what we've seen happen with the taxpayers' $535 million, basically, down the drain on solyndra. >> reporter: that's true. it is solyndra which has brought to the fore the shortcomings of the green j...

See them. not even a grainy photo. >> andrea: i don't think this is a big scandal. if you go on obama's own web site he talk about how we can't see competitiveness to china. he said he'd do this. if this is a scandal it's been going on since fdr. >> bob: no comment. >> greg: i love you. >> andrea: you're so quiet today what happened? >> bob: i refuse to comment on a story until there is real evidence. >> eric: wait a minute what do you mean real evidence? we lost $535 million. what more evidence do you need? >> bob: who lost? >> eric: the american taxpayers. >> bob: no, they didn't. >> eric: t...

Jobless claims number is staying stubbornly above that number. you combine that jobless claims report with another report which shows manufacturing in the northeast contracting a business more, and you've got a picture of an economy which is at dead stop, and the trend is indeed towards a contraction, that is recession. bill: we talked about that, and many people think we're already back in that recession, but that debate continues. now, on green jobs, there's a new survey out. what does it tell us about how the government tried to boost this industry, right? >> green jobs, very much at the ce...