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And very, very tough gun control including a ban on handguns and all assault weapons and in america we have very lax gun control, you have 12,000 gun murders a year. how does that work in your what were -- wharped twisted logic? >> in virginia there was a 16% increase in gun sales in 2012. that's 490,119 guns were sold. you would expect the way you speak, piers, for violent crime to rise proportionally. it fell 5%. there was violence crime that includes those -- >> which has the -- >> women -- which has the -- >> which state has the highest murder rate in the country, according to the fbi? do ...

Know, in domestic environment in homes there is a much higher incidence of suicide, domestic violence and so on. it has the compete opposite effect. on the comparison you have drawn between great brit and america, how do you explain this fact, that in britain we have on average 35 gun murders a year and very, very tough gun control including a ban on handguns and all assault weapons and in america we have very lax gun control, you have 12,000 gun murders a year. how does that work in your what were -- wharped twisted logic? >> in virginia there was a 16% increase in gun sales in 2012. that's 4...

Defend their lives and bodies. >> yeah, my problem is i don't want to see all the women in america armed with guns. where there are guns, as we know, in domestic environment in homes there is a much higher incidence of suicide, domestic violence and so on. it has the compete opposite effect. on the comparison you have drawn between great brit and america, how do you explain this fact, that in britain we have on average 35 gun murders a year and very, very tough gun control including a ban on handguns and all assault weapons and in america we have very lax gun control, you have 12,000 gun murde...