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>> exactly. >> we had these great bipartisan meetings in the health care committee where the first hearing we had five insurance -- state insurance commissioners, three from republican states, two from democratic states. they all agree, got to continue the cost sharing agreements. got to do that. two days later, second hearing, five governors, they all agreed, got to continue the cost sharing reduction payments. doesn't make any sense not to because it would drive insurance premiums up 20%. so the whole point of this thing was to get the exchanges and the premiums to go down and, in addition, ...

This is deeper than pulling away the government subsidies. there was a lawsuit where you have insurance companies who say pay up. the government still owes some insurance companies for back bills. all of this is par for the course with donald trump. the consequences are going to be this. people will lose care. their care will become more expensive. cheap phillipsy health care plans slipping back in the market. by next summer you will have devastated the marketplaces again because there's no replacement. at the end of the day this is an excuse because republicans couldn't come up with a better ...

Conversation on an issue at the very start of the day. here's the tweet. the democrats obamacare is imploding. massive subsidy payments to their pet insurance companies has stopped. dems should call me to fix! but make no mistake, over the last 24 hours, it is the president who has gone a long way toward putting his imprint on government-regulated health insurance, and he has done it without an act of congress. president trump upending the health care market, scrapping critical subsidy payments to insurers that help nearly 6 million lower income americans pay for health care. the payments, whi...

>> can you hear me properly? >> i can hear you. >> can't hear me. i want to fix this and come back. >> we can hear you. >> fair enough. >> i want to make sure. somebody told me it wasn't working. >> your mike is not on. i'm going to stand -- hold on. >> don't come over. you tell me when you can hear me. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. >> live tv everyone. >> can you hear me, control room? is that working? >> ask them if they can hear me. >> going to walk over to you. >> but you're going to see -- we're not supposed to show you. >> here's the issue. if you stop the cost sharing reductions, the government over ...

Does not save the federal government any money at all. in fact, because of laws that say the federal government has to subsidize those low-income insured it's going to cost the government $194 billion over the next decade. okay. talk about the immediate effect of ending subsidies to insurers. some states announced their obamacare premiums. pennsylvania, for instance, nothing changed. their premiums up 9%. now that it's gone, 20%. michigan with 17%. now 27%. georgia, 31.5% now 52% maryland didn't calculate, so high to start they didn't calculate what it could be without it. other states already...