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>> exactly. >> we had these great bipartisan meetings in the health care committee where the first hearing we had five insurance -- state insurance commissioners, three from republican states, two from democratic states. they all agree, got to continue the cost sharing agreements. got to do that. two days later, second hearing, five governors, they all agreed, got to continue the cost sharing reduction payments. doesn't make any sense not to because it would drive insurance premiums up 20%. so the whole point of this thing was to get the exchanges and the premiums to go down and, in addition, it would increase the deficit by $194 billion, according to cbo. >> because the government would have to pay more subsidies? >> yes. >> exactly.

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