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Congress, go to the hearings. he is going to fire everybody he can legally fire who has been involved in this. and they have got to look at changes. how can you put obama care under the internal revenue service? remember. is this the administration which will not profile terrorists but profile patriots? profile constitutional groups? i mean, this is almost madness. >> here is the time line of the irs' position on the issue. according to reports obtained by the associated press the findings seem to contradict public statements made by the agency's commissioner. in march of 2012, irs commission ...

On the original set of talking points. >> it's clear the president will be getting questions on this at the 11:15 news conference with david cameron in the white house rose garden and also tom brokaw, on the irs story. i'd like to get your take on what could be, if possible, the best possible spin on this? because i can't see one. this one, to me, is just kind of bad up and down. >> only one spin for the president to make which is come out and say this is outrageous and i have asked the people who are responsible to building this to be removed from their jobs and we will have an complete inves...

That because she was just about talking about what the -- what the irs said. >> here is the time line of the irs' position on the issue. according to reports obtained by the associated press, the findings seem to contradict public statements made by the agency's commissioner. in march of 2012, irs commissioner douglas schulman testified there absolutely no target adding that the investigations were, quote, the kind of back and forth that happens to people. >> a year ago, absolutely no targeting. >> on saturday, the irs put out a statement reading, quote, senior leadership was not aware of this...

Action. that's what a 501c4 is for. we applied for 501c3 status to educate on things like the constitution and bill of rights which this irs report was -- they're saying they don't even want us to do that. >> do you take sides in elections? >> we have only stood up for our issues. we've never endorsed any candidates. in the primary, in fact, the vast majority of the work we do, the vast majority is related to the issues like obama care, the debt, the overspending. i've been on your show talking about it. >> obama care, in opposing obama care, do you think that was a political move? >> it was a...

You were doing it as a campaign issue. >> no, it wasn't a campaign issue. we were out there in front of the supreme court when it was being heared out in front of the supreme court. again, that's what we're allowed to do as a 501c4. it wasn't for campaign purposes. it's because that is what -- how you appeal laws if you want to in this country. >> once the law was approved by -- went through and was approved by review by the supreme court, did you continue to attack obama care on through the november election? >> we have focused on obama care, and, of course, going into the elections last year...