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They need to have goals and they don't. >> i'm not sure whether i like richard simmons' red tights letter or tom delay's red pants in "dancing with the stars." is the irs trying to target conservative groups again? what's going on with the irs and the tea party thinks they're after them again. >> there have been new rules floated that they're going to change the way that 501c4s would be judged based on what constitutes campaign spending and what doesn't. this could cause problems for them in terms of putting out issue ads.

They are now working together to try and counter this challenge. and by the way, gregg, i have no problem with that because ultimately if the saudis and the israelis and the congress talk a tough game, at least the iranians are going to have to be worried about somebody if they're not board about barack obama -- worried about barack obama. gregg: good point. judith miller, thank you so much. all right. heather: the obama administration prooazing some new rules for tax-exempt political groups and coming after the irs scandal, you'll remember that, this which it targeted conservative groups, thi...

Should -- anyone out there should trust that the irs is going to fix this at all. they can't approve the groups we represent, they've been waiting for years, why would you expect that they're going to be able to have this new process available -- bill: would you need a special prosecutor to get that done then, do you believe? >> >> it may be necessary. this is the key. when you tie it with also the sec information that came out, bill, this is why lois lerner took the fifth. these are lies under oath as well as a continued targeting of conservatives only based on their viewpoint even though the...

Agents, you must understand, are veteran people that do understand we do have some tax law background that tells us okay, that when we do look at this type of case that the political activity, you cannot be primary, and if anybody wants to define that for me, go ahead." well, of course, none, exactly none of the committee staff attempted to define what "primarily" means in the 501c4 regulation because of course it's impossible to define, which is why the people who wrote the law, congress, used the word "exclusively," which is very easy to explain and understand. the solution to this problem i...

Political activity, you cannot be primary, and if anybody wants to define that for me, go ahead." well, of course, none, exactly none of the committee staff attempted to define what "primarily" means in the 501c4 regulation because of course it's impossible to define, which is why the people who wrote the law, congress, used the word "exclusively," which is very easy to explain and understand. the solution to this problem is now a petition at whitehouse.gov calling on president obama to issue an executive order nullifying the irs regulation regarding 501c4s and mandating the original statute b...