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Whole race of people. >> i have been at the border a dozen times. >> you can't have open borders at a welfare state. oo >> wher when rick perry took the border on. since 2008, 645,000 crimes were committed against texasen bys ans by illegal immigrants. >> what is donald doing to rick perry right now making fun of his classes. >> i think perry did a great job on the boarder. i disagree with trump. that's not the point here. >> isn't it the point there's a way to make a point. nhl there is a way to make an issue. >> why does he have to do it your way?

Border a dozen times. >> but that's not the issue. >> it is the issue. >> listen you can't -- my view su can't have open borders and a welfare state. i understand that. i get that. that's not what he said. >> remember when rick perry took on the issue of the border down in texas? i went down there. this was the meeting he was supposed to have with obama. i sat through a briefing with officials. since 2008 645,000 crimes -- wait a minute. were committed against texans by illegal immigrants. that is not a small insignificant number. >> and what is donald doing to rick perry right now? a guy -- e...

Border -- >> against a whole race of people -- >> a dozen times. >> that's not the issue. >> it is the issue. >> you can't -- my view is you can't have open borders and a warfare state. i understand that. i get that. >> remember when rick perry took on the issue of the border down in texas. i went down there. this was the meeting he was supposed toosk have with obama. since 2008 645,000 crimes -- wait a minute were committed against texans by illegal immigrants. that is not a small insignificant number. >> what is donald doing to rick perry? evist eviscerating. >> that's not the point here. >>...

Violence of the juarez cartel days it's going to spill over. it has to spill over. it's -- what trump says about the border, is -- by this graphic example proven at least to be partially true. >> i think it's more than partially true. the crime statistics bear this out. you know when i sat in that security briefing geraldo, with governor perry, since 2008 645,000 crimes against texans by illegal immigrants, that they have been victims of. so it's a real clear issue. it's not about the people that want to come here, work, have a better life for themselves and their family. the question is we re...

They have worked hard to become legal, and they don't like what's happening at the border where all of these illegals are flowing through. >> as you know mr. trump i was down at the board a dozen times, all the way from the rio grande to san diego where there is a drug warehouse and an office building tunnel built. when i sat through a briefing last year with governor perry, the one that president obama should have been at, i was told that since 2008, 645,000 crimes against texans alone, since 2008. why are people so resistant to acknowledge what is a simple, you know, unadulterated truth that...