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Think it is a real proposal, 400 billion in 10 years, when he, at the end of this year will have nearly five trillion that he accumulated in debt. >> he's grown the size of government by 25%. he wants to take discretionary nonsecurity spending, that's all he wants to do and freeze that. that's out of the 3.5 trillion budget, 662 billion dollars out of a 3.5 trillion dollar pie. he's not going to do anything about over 400 billion dollars in other mandatory spending, 700 billion dollars in social security, 500 billion dollars in medicare. the republicans are advocating this year, starting on a ...

Think it is a real proposal, 400 billion in 10 years, when he, at the end of this year will have nearly five trillion that he accumulated in debt. >> he's grown the size of government by 25%. he wants to take discretionary nonsecurity spending, that's all he wants to do and freeze that. that's out of the 3.5 trillion budget, 662 billion dollars out of a 3.5 trillion dollar pie. he's not going to do anything about over 400 billion dollars in other mandatory spending, 700 billion dollars in social security, 500 billion dollars in medicare. the republicans are advocating this year, starting on a ...

It's a half a trillion dollars in new taxes, $523 billion of many taken from medicare not to expand its insolvency but to pay for the new government program. >> both the cbo says it counts the cuts in medicare by extending the life of the program but siphons off that money to spend on other subs sdis, thus spending the money twice. so the house democratic bill actually adds up, he claims, to $662 billion of deficit spending so a big disagreement here on the bottom line. >> very interesting. jim engle, thank you. right now, a prayer service for house members is wrapping up. joining is yous fa...

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At a 27% cut. so this would fund ten departments, most of them would be reduced as a result of last summer's deal. the house and the senate expected to approve this today. also, now headed to the president's desk, a $662 billion defense bill for president obama's signature. it would fund soldiers, weapons, national security. it is below the president's request, but they were able to work out an issue with the white house regarding military custody for terror suspects. lynn? >> all right, tracie, thanks so much. in an exclusive interview last night, house minority leader nancy pelosi talked w...