Ramp, 2 1/2 means you go up forward, you spin around twice, 2 1/2 times, and then you come down forward and a lot of that is sort of upside down and twisting, and 900 refers to the degrees of rotation. >> but it's not just rotation, you're also flipping, too? >> well, it depends on your style of it, but for the most part it is like a rotation of the flat spin in the air on more of the "y" axis. >> so in 1999 the espn x-games you're going to try the 900. >> i did not plan to try it that night. >> really sph. >> yeah. because i'd come so far with it and never succeeded at it. >> even in private,...