Just above the water, and moments later it crashed on ketron island. we'll get john back up to talk than. mary schiavo is still with us. mary, one thing i should have asked you earlier. tell us about seatac, seattle-tacoma international. how big an airport are we talking about? >> we are talking about a major international airport with planes operating there from 777, to dreamliner, 787s, airbus aircraft. i mean, this is a major airport. you have a lot of flights landing there from china. it's -- obviously an airport with a lot of security because you have a lot of international flights. but, ...